NFL Week 8 Recap and Week 9 Preview

Welcome to another riveting episode of Call Your Shot! The guys dive headfirst into the Thursday Night Football game between the Steelers and Titans. Then, of course, the Chiefs' impending clash against the Dolphins in Germany. But what's a game without some predictions? We're pulling out our crystal ball and calling some bold shots for the Chiefs vs. Dolphins showdown. Find out why we're backing the Chiefs and why you should too. We also examine the Seahawks' defensive prowess and the quarterbacks they've faced this season. And finally, we delve into the Eagles vs Cowboys matchup, discussing why it's a must-win for the Cowboys. We're wrapping up with our Call Your Shot and Call Your Prop segments, where we give you our picks for the upcoming NFL games. 

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Welcome to the Call your Shot podcast, your weekly sports recap podcast, where we break down the hottest headlines, dissect the latest injuries and serve up our own hard hitting analysis of the past weekend sports. But that's not all. We're not just here to talk about the past, we're here to predict the future as well. On the Call your Shot podcast, we boldly predict the outcomes of the upcoming weeks games.

Speaker 2: 0:22

Hello everybody, thank you for listening. This is the Call your Shot podcast with your host, alex Harrison, drew Moore. Today's episode we're going to get into Thursday Night football from last night, do a quick recap on some of the games happened in week eight and preview some of the week nine juggernaut matchups. We have finishing off the NFL with our Call your Shot and Call your Prop segments. For all you bet and folks out there, they were going to hop right into the NBA. Victor Wimben, yama, james Harden, trade Lakers, clippers, sons, bucks, all of it, everything that's happened over the past week and a half of the NBA season so far. So we've got a jam packed episode. So let's get right into it. So we had Thursday Night football last night, steelers versus Titans.

Speaker 2: 0:53

Steelers end up kind of grinding out another one of those ugly wins that they've had. I think every game they said they played the season their competition has outscored them yard wise or had more yards in them, but they keep kind of just grinding out these wins. Will Leviss, in his second game in the NFL coming off the four touchdown game he had against the Falcons was not able to really move the ball that much, ended up having 250 yards. Derek Henry got a little going in the first half. Other than that they're kind of stagnant on offense, only settling for a couple field goals, had a chance to win the game at the very end on a game winning drive and Will Leviss was kind of able to move them ball down the field but ultimately ended in a Steelers pick to close out the game.

Speaker 2: 1:29

So, drew, your overall thoughts on the game, with your thoughts on Will Leviss so far, two games into his NFL career. And do you have any expectations for Pittsburgh? I know at the beginning of the season we both talked about them being, you know, respectable, maybe like a 500 team, just out of respect for Mike Tomlin. But now they're five and three firmly in a playoff wildcard position in the AFC North. So what are your thoughts?

Speaker 1: 1:52

Yeah. So first things first is yeah, I, we were just talking about this before. Before we started, I had the. I had Will Leviss in my starting lineup, not on purpose. Okay, like I didn't. Like I do think he is going to be very good going forward. Well, I shouldn't say very good, he'll be. He'll be good, better than what we've seen from a lot of these other better than time and my at Willis. Oh yeah, I mean that's a pretty low bar to just be better than Tana Hill.

Speaker 2: 2:26

But like yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:29

I do think. I do think that he'll be good for this offense going forward. But the problem is this team is mainly a run first offense and they're pretty conservative when it comes to their play call typically. So, like they used to or they're used to just just seeing what we saw last night, like just the classic grinded out game and then just run it a million times with Derek Henry or you know, throw some dink and dunk passes and stuff like that.

Speaker 1: 2:59

But now you have, like this super strong arm quarterback. Just like loves eating mayonnaise with the drink and mayonnaise with his with his coffee coffee. Yeah, slinging the ball around and everything is average depth of target last week was, I believe, like 11 yards, which is absurd, and this week it was around like 10, 10.1 or something around there.

Speaker 1: 3:24

And that's still like pretty, pretty good In terms of what the quarterback is doing to help move the ball down the field. And we talked about this a little bit before with Joe Burrow, with his average depth of target being way down in the beginning of the season when he was hurt it was around like four yards. So just for like perspective, like yeah, he's slinging the ball around and everything, but he's also been able to complete some of these passes to versus last week. Most of his passes were a lot of dink and dunk and then he obviously had, like you know, the the bombs down the field to Hopkins.

Speaker 2: 4:04

But yeah, I think that, I think that going forward.

Speaker 1: 4:09

Yeah, I think, going forward, this can be a I don't want to say a high scoring offense, but they're going to be a lot, a lot more. There's going to be a lot more offensive prowess than than what they've had in years past. Like you actually have to respect the past now, as opposed to before. It's oh, it's Tam Hill. Like you know, just just stack the box and don't have to worry about him.

Speaker 2: 4:35

So, yeah, definitely Agreed, agreed, yeah. No, I think I like will love us. So far, obviously, we had the big game last week in South Alcumst with four touchdowns, and the reemergence of Deandre Hopkins with three touchdowns. You know this game playing against the Steelers and obviously a great defense wasn't able to really get things going. He also kind of had an injury to Traylon Burke's at the end of the game where he kind of fell in the back of his head and ended up getting carted off. So I haven't really heard much updates for him, but I'm pretty sure that he was able to like move all of his extremities and things like that. I think he was taken to the hospital but I think he's going to be OK.

Speaker 2: 5:09

From the Steelers side of things, you know it doesn't look great on offense and it never really does. Yonte Johnson had a couple of big passes. George Pickens had a potential touchdown. He just wasn't able to get his feet inbounds and you know the Steelers actually have had a better run game since the buy Everybody was coming for, you know, canada's neck and wanting him to be fired and things like that.

Speaker 2: 5:28

It seems like they are starting to clean things up a little bit more, trying to lean more on that run game. Najee Harris had 70 yards, jaylen Warren had 90 yards. Overall, they're able to rush for over 150 yards and take control of the game just because they're able to lean on their defense, which is going to be their calling card. This is going to be how they're going to win games. It's going to be a 1960s throwback run the ball. Hopefully Kenny Pickett doesn't turn the ball over and win these low scoring games. So yeah, do you have any expectations for the Steelers making any noise in the AFC? Or you just, you know, think that this is kind of who they are and it's eventually going to regress back to the mean.

Speaker 1: 6:03

I mean, I want to say that like there's no way, because obviously, like what they're doing is not sustainable, like they're, they're, uh, they're giving up all these yards, all these yards and everything, and they're giving up all these points, but then their defense at the end of the day just bails them out and then they throw like one random deep ball to Pickens, um, and then he ran, like somehow breaks 16 tackles and they score. Or like Deontay Johnson just somehow is wide open in the middle of the end zone, and it's just like these, these spot plays, like where they're their defenses elite and they're they're stopping these, uh, these offenses, um, just long enough for the offense to have.

Speaker 2: 6:46

Like a fluke play hold on.

Speaker 1: 6:49

Literally Um. But then, like there's like, looking at the schedule right now, um, so they played against Tennessee, and then after that they play against Green Bay, uh, cleveland, who, who knows what's happening with their quarterback situation Okay, then they play against Joe Burrow and the and the Bengals, which they're coming back around, but then they play against Arizona, new England, indy, uh, and then Cincinnati again, and then, uh, they have a really easy matchup against the Seahawks, um, and then a tough matchup against the.

Speaker 2: 7:18

Bay.

Speaker 1: 7:19

Okay, the Ravens. So I mean like there's maybe one.

Speaker 2: 7:24

they can make a lot of golf yeah.

Speaker 1: 7:26

Like they, they very well could make the playoffs. Um like, with the remaining schedule that they have, it's not out of the cards, definitely. So, um, yeah, it's. It's one of those things where Tomlin, you know, and his record, uh, trying to be trying to be over 500 again and I, I don't know, it makes no sense, but somehow it keeps on happening, so yeah, yeah, schedule wise they have a couple of hard matchups like the Seahawks, um.

Speaker 2: 7:58

But yeah, I know, I definitely agree with you. I feel like they could honestly squeak into the playoffs, at least as a wild card. And it's kind of weird because it's like we talked about it earlier they have the second worst yardage ratio compared to competition in the league, like only behind, I think, the Panthers, and their five and three compared to the Panthers were like one in five. So that's kind of crazy. So I don't know how sustainable it is, but I mean it's worked and they've gotten through the, you know, the beginning of the season at five and three, and now they actually have a kind of favorable schedule for the rest of the season. So you know, we'll have to wait and see. When it comes to the Steelers, uh, moving on some games that happened in week eight, kind of just going to go through them. If you want to get into any of them, let me know. Had the bills take care of the bucks? Obviously, on Thursday night, as we mentioned last week, the dolphins were able to keep it rolling against the Patriots and their second win against them, 31 to 17. The Jets were able to squeak out talk about ugly wins and ugly win against the Giants. It was a rain game and it was absolutely disgusting. It was basically like each team was trying to give away the game and they're like, no, you take it, you take it and the Jets ended up finally holding on. At the end the Jags were able to beat the Steelers last week 20 to 10.

Speaker 2: 9:03

Some other ones we had the Cowboys beat the Rams, vikings beat the Packers. Your Saints got a win, drew. The Eagles had a close game against the Commanders. I was kind of a game I wanted to get into. It seemed like the Commanders were going to pull away early, going off to an early lead, and the Eagles were able to walk them down. And you know, aj Brown still going for 125 plus yards with multiple touchdowns. So I'm not exactly sure how teams are going to stop that. But did you have any notes on that game?

Speaker 1: 9:28

No, not really Just like somehow. Some way the Commanders always keep it close against this team and for some reason, the Eagles never stop. Yeah, and they could both. That's the thing that usually divisional matchups are like dead unders, like usually it builds infamilarity between the two teams, like they know each other's offense like the back of their hand and but apparently the the Commanders just keep on putting up points and making Sam Howell look elite out here with his yeah 114.

Speaker 2: 10:00

Are you ready to say that he's better than Jacobi Brissette? I mean, he has his moments, he has his moments, for sure, yeah nothing down, you know that's the thing.

Speaker 1: 10:17

It's like one week he'll throw what damn near 400 yards, four touchdowns, one pig only one sack, and then you know, the next week he'll have 150 yards. Yeah, exactly 150 yards, six interceptions and get sacked 15 times or something crazy. Like Nathan Peterman status, but but yeah, no, like it's. It's crazy how hot and cold he can be, well I mean, but actually like when he's, when he's not under duress, like he's actually a pretty decent quarterback, versus when he's you know, getting you know when he has pressure.

Speaker 1: 10:56

That's when he he scrambles around and like panics and then just throws the ball into like quadruple coverage and then you're like okay, this is the guy that we thought, yeah, and then when there's no, we start from a clean pocket. He's like Joe Montana or something. So it's interesting for sure.

Speaker 2: 11:18

Yeah, seahawks were able to get a close one against the Browns, ended up having to go on a game winning drive but ended up getting that and then getting the stop up against the Browns. Late Ravens were able to take care of business against the Cardinals, ended up being closer than I think most people thought, ended up being 31 to 24. I think it goes to show, you know the Cardinals have had a formidable offense all season long and you know when it comes to these blowout games that people expect they end up hanging around. So it's kind of been interesting.

Speaker 2: 11:42

Now you have Joshua Dobbs who was traded to the Minnesota Vikings. They haven't really got much into it, but Kirk Cousins did tear his Achilles late in that game against the Packers, so now he is out for the season. Justin Jefferson is still on IR, so they make the trade for Joshua Dobbs as Kyler Murray is nearing his comeback. What were your thoughts on that, drew? Do you think that the Vikings can still try to squeak into the playoffs, have a little bit of win streak? You know have wins against the 49ers, the Packers, and you know Joshua Dobbs has proven that he's at least been you know a decent quarterback and starting quarterback in the league.

Speaker 1: 12:13

So I mean, has he though, Like other than? Other than like the first couple of games like I mean he's, he's been. He's been a lot better than what people are giving him credit for. I'll say that like the only reason why they're even able to remotely kind of compete in these games are are mainly because of him.

Speaker 2: 12:37

Yes, however it hasn't really looked all that pretty Like, for example, his currently on pro football.

Speaker 1: 12:47

Exactly On pro football focus right now. He's currently the 28th ranked quarterback in the league. Like not last, yeah, yeah, yeah, bryce Young, desmond, ridger, gardner, mintchew, so you know, do with that list what you will, but that is exactly what you're getting in yourself into. If you're Minnesota, and I think that that this, like people are going to say like, oh, this is going to be a great move for Minnesota, like this is great, is it? Though?

Speaker 1: 13:19

Like I, this, this could be like one of those things that I mean they were talking about bringing in big bin, so I think that's better than that I mean you shouldn't have brought in anybody Like you at that point, you, you pretty much put it on the season.

Speaker 1: 13:30

Like because you're not going to play for the Super Bowl. Right Like you're, you're not. You're not going to win the Super Bowl this year, especially not with Josh Stobs. I mean, crazier things have happened, but if that was to happen, you would need to have like an elite defense as well to go along with it, which we know that the Vikings are the furthest thing from in the league defense. Brian Flores brings the house on every play, but then they get the second least amount of pressure on the quarterback. So it just doesn't make any sense to keep on doing what they do on defense. But they have been coming around. I'll give them that they have been coming around on defense, but yeah, no, josh Stobs is not the winner.

Speaker 1: 14:07

I don't care who have they played.

Speaker 2: 14:11

I mean, that's like the only reason that they ended up making the trade for Jostops? Because, like you know, they go on a little three game win streak. They beat a good team in the 49ers, so now they're four and four and you know, maybe they're like. You know, let's not mail it in completely, you know it's just well, let's see.

Speaker 1: 14:27

I mean, that's the thing, though, and the worst thing you can do in any league is be average, because you're not good enough to make it, make a push for the playoffs or make it deep in the playoffs, and you're not bad enough to get any draft picks to upgrade your team.

Speaker 2: 14:44

I don't think that they're above average either I mean they were like.

Speaker 1: 14:48

Kirk Cousins is like only 100 yards back or so of Tua from from leading the league and passing yards. And Justin Jefferson was around the corner.

Speaker 1: 14:58

I mean yeah but you know, you at least have a chance with Kirk Cousins. You have zero chance with Josh D'Obs. So, like I think that this, like people are going to say, oh yeah, it was a great trade for them, this is exactly what they need to get a quarterback that's at least comparable. Okay, you can play with a comparable quarterback if you have a good defense. If you don't have a good defense and you have a mediocre, that below average quarterback, like that's not a good defense. It's a good combo that just turns into the, the Cardinals 2.0.

Speaker 2: 15:29

So fair enough. Fair enough, have to move on from that. So one major thing of note is the 49ers end up losing to the Bengals, who are has proven to be a good team. They made a comeback ever since Joe Barrow has, you know, gotten pretty much fully healthy from his calf injury. But the 49ers have now dropped three losses in a row Loss of the Bengals, loss of the Vikings and a loss of the Browns. So since Debo's been out there, 0-3, and it's been kind of bad. Brock Purdy has not looked very great over the past three weeks. He's honestly looked very bad, especially compared to the first five weeks of the season. So what were your thoughts on that game, drew? Do you feel that the Bengals are completely back and do you think the 49ers can get things back on the right track?

Speaker 1: 16:13

It's. It's weird. It's definitely weird because this offense isn't clicking on all cylinders, that we're used to, seeing McAfrey still kind of doing his thing and everything. But the injuries are catching up with them for sure, especially on the offensive line, and that's that's one of their biggest problems is coming into the season.

Speaker 2: 16:34

So what I said, which we both alluded to coming into the season, you know they started off five and they were very healthy. But now the entry bug is starting to hit them, like it always does.

Speaker 1: 16:43

So yeah, and I mean also we're seeing Brock Purdy's turnovers starting to rear their ugly head, Like obviously it was not going to be sustainable for him to go this this long without, you know, throwing any interceptions, not having any turnovers and stuff.

Speaker 2: 17:01

And then he started it.

Speaker 1: 17:02

Yeah, I mean yeah. So like looking at, looking at what he's done over like the past couple of games, like he's had a past a pro football focus rating Of 66 and 61 and 41, going from Cincinnati, minnesota to Cleveland, and in those three games right there, like anything underneath a like 60 or between like 70 to 60 is considered league average or below average. If you're in the 70s you're a starter. So he's playing at like a bench player, below average kind of player right now which before he was at 85, 76. He had a game against the Giants when he was 58 and then 61 and 70. So I mean, he was the elite against Dallas.

Speaker 1: 17:57

But then you go against Cleveland and a soppy, wet game and then it just kind of carried over from there and there's people talking about like the concussion thing where, like you know, he hit his head and then he he threw two picks and he's made bad decisions and stuff. I mean, yeah, that could be a thing as well, but ultimately it's. It's one of those things where that's a super gray area in the NFL where if a player goes down, especially in this day and age, a player goes down with the concussion, especially after two, they're going to try and do everything that they can to put them through a battery of tests to make sure that they're they're able to play at the level that they're accustomed to playing at Now, that being, said we've talked about this before where concussions can linger for, you know, months to years, Like they don't just like.

Speaker 1: 18:48

Oh OK, six, six days, seven days are up. All right, we're heading out guys. Concussion train is leaving the station. We're gone, we're done.

Speaker 2: 18:55

Good to go.

Speaker 1: 18:57

Yeah, exactly Like it doesn't just go away. So could that be contributing to it? Yeah, could it also be that the injuries are catching up to them and he's starting to regress? When it comes to his, his turnovers Also? Yeah, so I mean, I don't know, like his? Yeah, that's all I'll say about that.

Speaker 2: 19:20

I can go on forever, but yeah, yeah, the injury bug has definitely been in them and Brock Parry has not looked not only like himself in the first five games of season, but at all last year as well. So, and it doesn't get much easier for them, the schedule upcoming is getting pretty tough. They place play against the Jaguars this weekend, then they play against the Bucks, which probably should be a win, but then they play against the Seahawks, the Eagles and then the Seahawks again. So the schedule isn't that great for them and currently, if you know my stats are correct through, the Seahawks are currently number one in the NFC West. Who would have thought it like? I mean, it's great, it's great. Love to see you, love to see it Really. One last thing.

Speaker 1: 20:01

One last thing, though, too when it comes to turnover worthy plays, which are plays that will exactly what it sounds like should result in a turnover, either like dropped interceptions or fumbles that the offense recovers, and then also the actual turnovers, brock Parry is currently fourth when it comes to turnover worthy plays, at 14, only behind Desmond Ritter with 16, gardner Minchie with 16 and Mac Jones with 17. So that's not company that you want to be in. Oh and right, right below him too. That's tied. I remember is Sam Howe.

Speaker 2: 20:35

So I remember you were talking about that early, early on the season because obviously he was great and you know, in the conversation of the MVP candidate, but you were talking about him having a high turnover worthy plays but they just weren't. People aren't converting, they weren't catching them, they were dropping the picks and things like that. So now it actually is coming to fruition and, you know, is regressing back to the mean and this is kind of the result that you get, as with that.

Speaker 1: 21:01

Exactly, yep. And one thing too, because it's just hilarious, is now Sam Howe has since almost doubled up Daniel Jones when it comes to the amount of Saxity's racked up this year. So moving on.

Speaker 2: 21:22

Yeah, moving on On, the game that I really wanted to get into in week eight was the Chiefs versus the Broncos. I remember you were talking about that as a potential call your shot game and wanting to take the spread against the Broncos ended up being, I think it was like a sevens point spread at kickoff and you know Broncos were at home. Patrick Mahomes was undefeated against the Broncos and you know has a great record against interdivision games and the Broncos ended up basically taking complete control of that game. The Chiefs were able to move the ball but once they got into the red zone they weren't able to necessarily convert. Patrick Mahomes had a good amount of turnovers and the Broncos actually look solid. Javante Williams seems like he's kind of back, fully back and since the injury last season, and they just took complete control of the game. So what were your thoughts on that game?

Speaker 2: 22:07

And you know, I'm not really too worried about that game for the Chiefs, but what are your thoughts?

Speaker 1: 22:13

Um, yeah, I mean there were 16 and 0 against the Broncos, like this. Yeah, I'm not concerned about this either. They were looking ahead to their game against the.

Speaker 2: 22:24

Dolphins in Germany.

Speaker 1: 22:25

Yeah, exactly, so they're looking ahead to that game. This is a definitely letdown spot, which I'm glad that I realized that and didn't take it, because I would have been just like wow. But I mean, you know, this was one of those games too where it just it looked gross because they weren't able to move the ball at all. And also there was a major factor, too, that I should have seen coming from Allaway Taylor Swift wasn't in the house.

Speaker 1: 22:58

So that's a clear play against the Chiefs in that game, Like when Taylor Swift's in the house.

Speaker 2: 23:03

Travis Kelsey still had a solid game.

Speaker 1: 23:06

Well, I'm just saying, man, when Taylor Swift's in the house like they win games, and also Travis Kelsey averages like 90 plus yards or something like that too, so they it's true, it's like he goes like underneath like 50 yards or something crazy. But yeah, it's. I think that was a major factor. But then also, you know, they weren't able to get the running game going and and finally we saw some life from the Denver offense, at least on the running game, but not concerned at all for me.

Speaker 2: 23:43

But yeah, moving on to week nine, for the most part we were talking about this for the show started a lot of these games to kind of gross, but we do have some juggernaut big matchup games. This week we, as Drew mentioned, we have the Dolphins and Chiefs in Germany at 6 30 in the morning, for those of you on the East or for those of you on the West Coast. We also have the Seahawks, ravens, cowboys, eagles, bill's, bengals or any of these games that you wanted to get into real quick, drew. A little preview.

Speaker 1: 24:12

Actually quite a few.

Speaker 2: 24:15

So first and foremost.

Speaker 1: 24:17

I'll try to make them brief and in short, but you guys know me by now. Nothing is brief and short, except for my height.

Speaker 1: 24:23

Anyways, we're going to go off with the first game we have here on the board over in Germany where Andy Reed is going to have some, some meat sweats going on getting those German sausages and he's also going to come home with a W in this premiere matchup against the Dolphins. I'm calling it here first, I am calling my shot. All right, I think that that the Chiefs were looking ahead for this game, whereas the Dolphins I mean sure, yeah, they were looking ahead too, but Don't know, they're not able to play in these big games. They never end up showing up. We've seen that the past two, two times that they played elite teams.

Speaker 1: 25:10

They just don't have what it takes to compete on, to compete on both sides of the ball, and the chiefs there, you know for the first time in forever, shout out to frozen. They they're able to compete on both sides and they have a top 10 unit on Both sides being able to slow down the run, slow down the past, and when my homes isn't messing around throwing the ball to the other team, he's able to be the my homes that we all know and love, the MVP kind of caliper player. So if, if you're going, you're telling me you're going up against this team, that that that basically is like Swiss cheese on defense and you have my homes have a healthy, generally healthy offense. Um, like I mean, and and you're also getting my homes as less than a three-point favorite like, come on, like, lock it up, give it to me now, book it, inject it.

Speaker 2: 26:09

I definitely would agree with you. I Definitely agree with you. I would choose the chiefs in this game as well. The dolphins, as we've mentioned over the past few weeks, have not beaten a good team, the NFL. I don't think they've beaten a team over 500 and like going back to last season, nearly a season. So I think that this is Kind of the same situation playing against a good team, obviously with Patrick Mahomes. So they have this good offense and they're actually playing against a good defense. As we've mentioned multiple times, this is the best defense that Patrick Mahomes has ever had and to a struggles against pressure and I think that they'll be able to kind of I don't want to say completely stop.

Speaker 2: 26:42

I think it'll be a decently high-scoring game, but I think they're gonna struggle. Obviously, this is a revenge game for Tyra kill and he was alluding to it in some of the you know, pregame pressers. He's like I prefer that we played back, you know, in Kansas City, but you know they can get this work wherever. So now they're gonna be in Germany and I feel that you know they're gonna try to do everything they can to hone in on Tyra kill, who is pretty much the favor right now for Offensive player of the year, but I'm not saying that they're gonna hold them to, you know, under 80 yards or anything like that, but I think they're gonna be able to do a solid job. So I would definitely take the chiefs in this game as well, I think yeah.

Speaker 1: 27:16

Yeah, and one of the other things too is the offensive line for the dolphins is super banged up right now. Armstead Williams and hunt which are all.

Speaker 1: 27:26

It's still on our yeah, and these are three major players. For them, williams is questionable, but he's more likely not gonna play. They yeah with with this, with this, this unit that the chiefs have In terms of the pass rush and being able to stop the run as well. I think that's gonna be the. The major deciding point is if the chiefs can stop the run and Slow down most dirt, and then they're gonna. They're gonna win this game. If they allow most, or to run rampant, run into the streets of Germany, then it's not gonna be. It's not gonna be pretty for for the chiefs, I don't think. But, like I said, that is one of my, one of my picks for this weekend is it's gonna be the chiefs. So money line, god damn it.

Speaker 2: 28:17

Hey, you know, give these game winning field. Go to win by one, anything like that.

Speaker 1: 28:21

See, that's what happened with you. You could have taken money line because when you took the Seahawks, unbelievable, yeah, but yeah we've had some bad, a couple bad beats overall.

Speaker 2: 28:31

Obviously we're up on the season with our bets, but we've had a couple bad beats. We had Lamar Jackson missing his rushing yards by point, five points. We've had the Seahawks off in one point. It's been. It's been. Some of the losses have been kind of tough. But, speaking of the Seahawks, we do have them taken on the Ravens this week. Oh, you want to get into something.

Speaker 1: 28:48

No, that's it yeah.

Speaker 2: 28:50

Yeah, you know, we do have the Seahawks taken on the Ravens this week. This is not a call your shot game for me. I am not going to be why the?

Speaker 2: 28:55

Seahawks. I don't want to do no reverse jinxes or anything like that. I'm just going to enjoy the game and hope the Seahawks are able to, you know, slow down Lamar Jackson who right now is probably the favorite for MVP. You know that's the games in Baltimore. The Ravens are a six-point favorite and they've kind of ran through the NFC Over the past three or four years since Lamar Jackson has been in the league. He is 17 and one against the NFC and just destroyed the Lions a couple weeks ago. So, you know, not looking the greatest for us, but you know, I think that we have a good offense. I think that at times our defense can play well and it's going to be about, you know, stopping Lamar Jackson, trying to get pressure on him and not letting him scramble and basically allow a Fucking flowers and mark Andrews to run around for touchdowns in the end zone and red zone and things like that. So what your thoughts on this game drew your expectations and you know who do you got winning this game. Always gonna choose Seahawks, I don't care.

Speaker 1: 29:50

I mean, okay, stop it. Like we talked about this before, before we came on here, the I think it's Lamar Jackson is like 12 and 1 against the NFC, and so I mean, like I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna go against that trend. That's just as a losing strategy right there. But I do. I am very surprised with how well the Seahawks have been playing 17. Oh, 17, excuse me.

Speaker 1: 30:22

Yeah, so I mean yeah, it's looking to fit. Yeah, I mean so, like I, like I said, I have been impressed with the, the Seahawks, and how they've been playing this year, but this elite defense that we're talking about now, let's mitigate our expectations, okay, cuz I mean, listen to, listen to who they've been playing. They've been playing, they've been playing by a lot of metrics. People have them as like a premier defense and obviously not like the legion of boom status, but they're talking about like, oh, like they they're coming up, they got these young players and everything like that, oh, these things, and they got Jamal Adams back. Okay, jamal Adams is not the turning point of a defense and we signed Leonard Williams.

Speaker 1: 31:08

Trade deadline. Oh, you signed, he signed an old ass defense alignment.

Speaker 2: 31:13

Okay, oh Okay, he's gonna help.

Speaker 1: 31:23

He's good, but he's not like like you know, Like I was trying to think of a. Okay yeah, he's not like the fridge or anything like that I move people out the way. You know what I'm saying. But yeah, okay, anyways, these, these, this is who the Seahawks played. Okay, so we got the Rams, matt Stafford we know how we feel about him and then they played against. You know, that's good competition. And then Bryce Young, who's one of the worst quarterbacks in the league right now. They played against Daniel Jones, okay, okay.

Speaker 1: 32:01

Played on went on a buy yeah, that's. You know, that's a pretty good defense there and then played against a, an injured, joe Burrow, um, lost. And then played against our newly beloved quarterback in Minnesota and Joshua Dobbs and we've seen how, how well he's played. And then the put against DTR yeah, he's real good, isn't he?

Speaker 1: 32:29

So I mean, like these are the quarterback stays, but that the Seahawks have played, like you're telling me, other than you know, yeah, but the players that you played in front of you haven't been good like that and people are trying to say like, oh, this is just elite defense or whatever. You know what. I'm not gonna do it. I was gonna say you Be them minus the six, but what I will say is give me Lamar Jackson over over his passion. I'm not even, I don't even know, I don't even know what his passenger problem is, but give me, you me, the over on that, because they played against some like pretty bad Offenses, 250. Give me 300 plus 300. God damn it, yeah, over 300. Lock it up right now like Yikes, oh, thank God yeah that's like 300 kind of scary.

Speaker 1: 33:25

But yeah, I mean, let me see what I have. Have them my rankings here. I'm talking about the, the Seahawks defense here. So yeah, I have See my. They're messing up my metrics out here. I got them at like a top five, top five secondary. That ain't right, not a right. He can't. That's crazy. I have them as the 18th ranked Run defense, though. So I mean I'm not gonna play for Lamar Jackson over rushing rushing arts ever again, because that apparently just it can never hit. Yeah, but I'm, you know, yeah, I'm taking that, though I don't care what the, what all the metrics say. I, I test, goddamn it, I test, I've seen it. The Seahawks Okay, they're. They're playing Above their skis right now. Okay, they, they're good. Don't get me wrong, they've been playing, they've been playing great. What they're not good? You're saying that we?

Speaker 2: 34:34

haven't been playing above our skis. You said that we played against bad competition, so we played it. We won the games that we're supposed to. We should have beaten the bangles and we should be six and one, but we're not, or five and two, and we're currently leading in the NFC West. So I mean, there we go.

Speaker 1: 34:50

I mean, I'm just saying like I Don't know I I'm saying away from this game, I'm just gonna be a spectator in a hope.

Speaker 1: 35:00

Like I've been. I've been impressed with you know, the, the production that they've had and everything. But We've kind of seen over the past couple weeks that Gino is starting to come back, to come back home. Let's just say Right, where you belong than his, his lower tier kind of Calibre player, because he was like this is what I'm talking about when it comes to Playing above their skis and stuff are playing over their skis, whatever the saying is. I'm a snowboarder, I don't ski. But To start off the season, gino Smith was around like the like a top five quarterback per pro football focus.

Speaker 1: 35:39

Now he's kind of regressed back. Okay, now, he's kind of regressed back and he's down around 1011, I mean, which still isn't bad, but he's still not training in the right direction, okay, yeah. And then remember how we were talking about those turnover worthy plays before with our our dearly beloved Brock Purdy. Yep, so Brock Purdy, like we said, he's. He has 14 of those on the year and he is currently ranked fourth, tied with our good old friend Sam Howe, who leads the league in sacks. Okay. Right below him, joshua Dobbs, patrick Mahomes Okay, that's a good company to be in right, not necessarily in this kind of stat. Oh, and the right below him is Gino Smith. Okay, so currently he is ranked eighth in the league and turn over worthy plays, but he has one of the lowest percentages when it comes to Turnover worthy play percentage, which means that turn over worthy plays that result in a actual turnover I guess just say in and actual turnover proper grammar out here, anyways but yeah so, which means that some turnovers could be in store for our, our good old buddy pal, gino Smith, this week.

Speaker 1: 36:48

I don't think it's necessarily going to, you know, come all at once pause, but I do think that it's going to be something that that that results in a loss for this team and Maybe a couple more down the road as well too. When we've seen it in the past couple weeks where you know he, he's going and he's having a pretty decent game and then comes down to it and get down to the end zone turn over, get down to the end zone fumble. So you know like, and we're still seeing that they're not able to convert these, these red zone chances, like I said before, I said it last week too, and we keep for that. If they can, they can convert on these, on these turn on these red zone Opportunities, because they, I think, are still currently lead the league in red zone opportunities. Um then that don't, that'll take them up to another level, but until then it gets. I don't know, it's not looking good for them right now.

Speaker 2: 37:45

So yeah, I kind of agree it. We saw this kind of last year too. Gino Smith started off the season very good and borderline elite, and then he kind of had this like little Dip in the midway through the season where everything kind of reversed and he kind of turned into like mediocre and then it kind of was a little bit of up and down. So we're kind of having a remix of that this season. I think that, like you mentioned, we just need to convert in the red zone and like, even if it's not a touchdown kind of, at least get a field goal, like just not turn the ball over in the end zone, no more interceptions and things like that. So you know, hopefully things will get back on the right track.

Speaker 2: 38:20

We kind of really need this one against the Ravens because even though we are sitting firmly as the leader in the NFC West, we are still. We still played one less game than the 49ers and we play against the Ravens and the commanders and the ram. So you know, if we can beat the Ravens, that we could possibly go and continue our win streak, but then we play against the 49ers, cowboys, 49ers and Eagles. So that's a very tough schedule here coming up. So this is where you kind of have to get those wins and you know we're you know, looking back on the season wins like games like the bangles that we let get away. We should have won that game and so hopefully we can pull this off against the Ravens, can keep going on the right track Into the commanders and the ram. So I have to see what that. Any other game that you wanted to get into this week we also have cowboys Eagles matchup. If you want to, you know, get into that a little bit.

Speaker 1: 39:06

I think that that this is one of those weeks where, you know, pretenders become contenders, contenders turn into pretenders.

Speaker 2: 39:19

I got the Eagles I.

Speaker 1: 39:23

I'm scared.

Speaker 2: 39:25

Deck is eight and two lifetime against the Eagles three and one on the road.

Speaker 1: 39:31

He has, he has owned them. Granted, exactly, I was gonna say, well, he is, I think, like one and two or something like that, against, or two and one, I sorry, against the Jalen Hurts. Hmm, oh, like something like that. But I, I, I really want to. I I'll give you the three. Come back to me by the end of this. I might get around to it, but okay. I got my model. Right now it's. It's a no-play and I'm gonna respect that since when do you listen to your model?

Speaker 1: 40:10

You're right, I need to start, but Maybe, maybe this is the week I'll. I'll listen and Well, we'll see what happens, but I do I do like this matchup for the eagle, or, sorry, for the Cowboys, freudian slip, exactly, you know it, you know it. Give it to me, give it to me. I bet the Eagles beat the cow and say by more, because you know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 2: 40:39

I bet that the Eagles win, beat the Cowboys by more than three points.

Speaker 1: 40:43

I Think not, I think I know you okay, cowboys. Well, at least, at least cover the spread. But yeah, I mean they always, they always at minimum. You know, plant tough. It's a divisional game and the Eagles haven't looked right, you know like. I mean, you're telling me you're, you're giving up what like 30 something Points to Sam Howe, like, and he's done for 400 yards. No like.

Speaker 2: 41:20

We just talked about it like not too long ago. You know he has those games every once in a while. He has some boom games. The Eagles is not been great Exactly, and so and so like.

Speaker 1: 41:30

With that being said, they they also have some injuries on the on their team, but they are getting back Jalen Carter, who's been dealing with some injuries and stuff too, but I think that I don't know. I Though the loss of of digs was was big for sure, but I think that they're starting to figure it out on the defensive side and I think that's going to be a Something that they can, they can grow upon as the season progresses. But did you?

Speaker 2: 42:05

really get out again. Bandarash is out, which fix the internet, oh my god, no, you Cut up for a second. You're back now.

Speaker 1: 42:18

All right, we're where the loss of digs.

Speaker 2: 42:20

The loss of digs.

Speaker 1: 42:21

Okay, I Don't know what's wrong with this internet. Yeah, I must be like a power outage, or someone would be a part of it. I wouldn't have any.

Speaker 2: 42:33

Elections, but some it's wrong.

Speaker 1: 42:36

Yeah, but yeah, I think that the the loss of digs, while it is a major factor, I don't think that it's Like. I do think that they're they're kind of coming around on how do you how to cope with some of the injuries that they've had and that they've Developed over the course of the year, because now they have good?

Speaker 2: 42:59

Duran Blaine he stepped up. They said Duran.

Speaker 1: 43:01

Blaine.

Speaker 2: 43:02

Yeah, digs the back of his played really well.

Speaker 1: 43:03

I think he has like three or four interceptions on the season, yeah, which has been surprising because before he has been one of the the main targets for offenses.

Speaker 1: 43:12

So my moments exactly, and so I mean we're, and I mean the loss of bandarash is is pretty substantial as well, but they have been able to kind of piece together some of the pieces here and, per pro football focus, they're currently ranked fifth overall on defense right now. So I I Do think that at minimum they will be able to compete with, with the Keep on mixing up the team now said with the Cowboys, with the Eagles, but at the same time it it is scary, I Gonna, I'm hopping off, I'm not, I can't do it, I'm not doing now what?

Speaker 1: 44:00

I'm looking at, I'm looking. I'm looking at the color.

Speaker 2: 44:02

Okay, I will give you that like. Okay, this would probably this is the game that I would expect.

Speaker 2: 44:07

No, this is the game that I would expect, like if the Cowboys were to win a game. It seems like the runs on the wall for them. It's set up for them to be able to have an upset against the Eagles. This is a game that the Cowboys must win, I feel like I think that they need this game much more than the Eagles do.

Speaker 2: 44:22

We've seen that the Eagles have struggled on defense on times and we've seen that at times the Cowboys have been elite, when you actually get CD involved, when Tony Pollard has been efficient. So you know it's a solid possibility and, like as we mentioned, that has a good record against the Eagles, even though I hasn't necessarily all been against Jalen Hertz. So I you know I don't love it, but I do feel that the Eagles are gonna take control of this game and the Cowboys are kind of in the same situation that the Dolphins are in. I have not seen them beat a good team yet. So until I see it, I'm going to vote against it. So it should be a good game, though I think it will be somewhat close, but I think then the ultimately in the Eagles will pull away on like some like 31 to 24 type score.

Speaker 1: 45:05

Also real quick. Do you know who's hanging around with Geno Smith and the turnover where they play category?

Speaker 2: 45:11

Would it be mr Hertz or Dak?

Speaker 1: 45:13

absolutely Jalen Hertz, and that's something kind of interesting too. Dak has actually been doing pretty well at Taking care of the ball. Where's he at? He's all the way down at the bottom of the list. He has the fewest amount of turnover where he plays in the league, tied with Joe Burrow. So I mean, if, if Dak can take care of the ball which is one of the main reasons why they switched to this offense is it's more conservative Offens. They ninking dunk more often than they throw it down the field, which has pros and cons, because then they're not as an explosive team as there as we're accustomed to seeing, but at the same time, it's also Protecting Dak from himself. So and and people are saying well, I mean not people Jalen Hertz himself has been saying that he is playing through an injury as well.

Speaker 2: 46:05

You know, yeah, and so then you can visibly see him limping throughout the game.

Speaker 2: 46:10

I I'm not so weird, though, sometimes like he'll scramble and, like you know, he's never is not like a Lamar Jackson acceleration or anything, but he's always been a strong runner. It seems, like you know, he kind of coasts more so now with the injury. So he obviously is trying to get out of bounds. Usually he's a very physical runner, trying to get extra yards through contact, and now he's getting a lot of extra yards through contact. It's been a lot more smarter with his runs now that he's been hurt. It's kind of weird. This is kind of why you love the NFL, because you know Things can change week to week. Just a couple weeks ago, after they got blown out by the cow or by the 49ers people are talking about the Cowboys, possibly this is the playoffs and all that kind of stuff get a couple, a couple of good wins against decent teams and the Chargers and Rams, and now they face against the Eagles and have a chance to, you know, basically Establish themselves back again as an elite team within the NFC.

Speaker 1: 47:00

So yeah, the One last thing on this game is, according to pro football focus to they, the Eagles have a 38% offensive line advantage when it comes to running the ball, and the Dallas Cowboys have a 16% offense flying advantage when it comes to running the ball.

Speaker 1: 47:20

Whereas on offense, when it comes to the past rush, the Eagles have a negative 11% I guess it would be a disadvantage and a and the Cowboys have a negative 37% Disadvantage when it comes to the past rush, which is another reason why I'm running. Yeah, I think that this.

Speaker 2: 47:43

I don't think. I think it's a bad matchup for the Cowboys too because, like the Eagles offensive line which I still think is one of the better in the NFL you know that's the biggest problem that the Cowboys or. You know that's the Cowboys calling card. They get turnover where they play, they get pick sixes, they get good field position for the offense, so that doesn't always have to be great, but I don't think that they're necessarily gonna have to be able to do that this year. As long as Jalen hurts takes care of the ball, I don't think that the pressure that Cowboys normally get is going to be as strong against the Eagles oh line. And if that's the case, then you're gonna have to depend on Dak to. You know, run the offense and completely go out and win a game and, as we've talked about in the past, that's not something that I usually like to put my money on.

Speaker 1: 48:22

Yeah, exactly, and I mean. One thing that's kind of surprising too is you would think that there would be like a pretty substantial drop-off between when when Dak press, when Dak presscots under pressure, versus when he's, you know, just in a clean pocket. But it's actually been pretty good this year, which is why we're also seeing that he only has five turnover the plays. But and with a clean, with a clean pocket, his passer rating is currently 97.8, and under pressure, his passer rating is 97.8.

Speaker 1: 48:56

So there's not much of a drop-off Exactly so like there's not much of a drop-off or any real difference at all when it comes to when teams get pressure on them or versus when he has a clean pocket. So, which is why we see his passing grade right now at 82.4, which is one of the best ones in the league. So I Just I'm saying all these things to try and talk myself into this, because I really Know I'm not giving you any extra points.

Speaker 2: 49:31

No, it's three. Yeah, take it away.

Speaker 1: 49:33

Get three and a half or no, you get three. Um three three, three. Let me look at this best thing about that before before 64% of the public is on the Eagles.

Speaker 2: 49:52

You know what that's. Honestly, this kind of crazy though, too, because we've both talked about how we don't think that home field advantage this bread wise, should it be as strong as people give it credit for, which is normally three points. So the fact that the Eagles are three-point favorites at home and it's basically like a pick them like I don't know, I feel like the spread should be a little larger in favor of the Eagles, but I, complaining it, I'm gonna bet it.

Speaker 1: 50:19

You know what? Give it to me, give it to me, give me, give me, give me cowboys, give me cowboys.

Speaker 2: 50:26

No takebacks this time.

Speaker 1: 50:27

All right, we're gonna take back solid. I'm mad at my word. I'll lock it.

Speaker 2: 50:31

Okay, on the second time around. Okay, fair enough. So that'll be a game you came and know. I think the last one I really wanted to get into was the bills bangles yeah, the bangles, as we've mentioned, have had a good turn over. I don't know what it is against. What with the bangles? They're like you know, we're just not gonna try the first two or three seasons, whether it be injuries, whether it be missing Training camp and whatever the case may be, starting off the season bad, and then they're just like okay, hold my beer, I'm trying now, and then they go on these weeks. So now they are completely healthy, clicking on all cylinders and they are favorited against the bills. Your vaunted bills drew Josh Allen and all that kind of stuff who have looked Dare, I say volatile this season and it hasn't looked that great.

Speaker 2: 51:12

So what are your expectations for this game? Who you got? Bills versus bangles and you know what do you think this is gonna tell you coming out of the AFC? I?

Speaker 1: 51:21

Mean. Okay, when I said that I was high on the bills earlier on in the In the season, that was when you're trying to tell you man.

Speaker 1: 51:30

Okay, nobody was like, oh yeah, they're gonna have like the injuries to their like three major players on defense like part of the game. Okay, whatever, but regardless, you know you still have all these injuries to your major players and that's not turning around anytime soon. This is the Damar Hamlin Bowl as well, so I think it's gonna be a super emotional game for the bills and I think that the bangles have something to something to say about this game, because they still have that nasty taste in their mouth from when they got bounced from the playoffs last year. I think that I think that Joe burrow ice cold. Joe burrow is gonna go in there. It's gonna get the job done, as he always does. I think that their offense is, as I like to say, Rejuvenated, revitalized and ready to conquer the day.

Speaker 2: 52:24

And you know, joe makes them.

Speaker 1: 52:27

Yeah, you know, got a little torso injury. I never hurt nobody like so he had an interview.

Speaker 2: 52:32

He had an interview early this week. Apparently, like a line had came out and the NFL was basically like I think it was like the AFC championship for like a neutral site and it was like opening up tickets for people to be able to, like you know, pre-purchase potential matchup for the bills versus the chiefs. So basically, the NFL has already had the right and on the wall. They're like you know, this is probably gonna be the AFC matchup and Joe Nixon didn't take too kindly to that.

Speaker 2: 52:53

He's like they got to say they got to see about us, so they might have a little bit of a bulletin board material as well. So exactly.

Speaker 1: 53:01

And so We've seen over the past few weeks too, where the bills have not been able to stop really anybody on offense, and I mean when, when you almost lose to the yeah, and then, and then you go out, and then you do lose to the, the Patriots like, come on, what are we, what are we doing out here, like they're, their defense is super vulnerable right now, and then comes March, we come in marching with the, the bangles I this is also one of my picks too for the call your shot segment. We're just going through all my picks right now at, basically, yep, but yeah, I. I think that this is the last week was the Joe burrow and the Almost said Jamal Charles, wrong sport, we'll get there. And Jamar Chase that we've seen in years past, where they're clicking on all cylinders and the offense is is running nice and steady and the defense is doing their job as well. I think that this isn't gonna end very well for the bills this week.

Speaker 2: 54:16

So yeah, I, this is in the call your shot game for me, but I probably, I don't know I I keep going back and forth, so I'm just gonna stay neutral in this. These bills we know what the bangles were. You know they had a very tough start to the season. Now they're getting back on the right track. The bills Obviously we know the defensive injuries that they've had, but they've been very In consistent overall. So they have a couple good wins against the dolphins was a very good team and the Jaguars, who have proven to be a very good team.

Speaker 2: 54:43

But you also, as you mentioned, have losses to the Jets, the Giants and the Patriots. So it doesn't you never know. It seems like what game you're gonna get from the bills, whether they're gonna be like an elite, you know juggernaut type team, or they're gonna be a team that wets the bed and you know, just kind of I don't know. It seems like they played down to their competition. So I think that in this type of game against the bangles, similarly, similarly to where they had against the dolphins, they might take this game very seriously and I would not be surprised if the Buffalo Bills end up winning this game. But I'm not exactly sure It'll be a very entertaining game for Sunday night football. So were there any other games? Oh sorry, yeah, real quick, that was the other thing too.

Speaker 1: 55:25

What like they're the competition that they played this week or this year for the, the bills, the bills. Four snaps against Against Aaron Rodgers, okay, yeah. And then they played against the, the armpit of the of New York, which is Zach Wilson, and then they played against. I rotate against Jimmy, yeah, jimmy Garoppolo, sam Howell, okay, they play against to a. That was great game and everything. They had an actual defense when they played in that game.

Speaker 1: 55:56

But, since then they played against Um Trevor Lawrence, who, okay, you know he's actually doing pretty well this year. But then, they played against the Giants who have Danny. Was Danny Dimes hurt for that game right?

Speaker 2: 56:09

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 56:12

So a backup to a backup, because Danny Dimes is not starting quarterback.

Speaker 2: 56:18

I got my bad.

Speaker 1: 56:20

For real. And then they played against Mack Jones, lost, and then they beat Um Baker Mayfield, but Baker Mayfield has not been doing very well over the past couple weeks as well too. So I yeah that it's not. It's they. When they play against good teams, typically they do show up for the competition but that's typically when they have their, their Vonta defense, which is now depleted and porous, so yeah, fair enough.

Speaker 2: 56:55

Those are the major games of week nine. Moving on to call your shot and call your prop segments. As Drew has already given All of his call your prop or call your shot games, I will get started here, as we alluded to it. My call your shot game is going to be the Eagles over the Cowboys. You know I want to take money line, but I'm just gonna take it straight up. Fine, I'll take it straight up, that's fine. No, I'm just playing. I'll take the. I'll do it the minus three.

Speaker 2: 57:18

I think that the Philadelphia Eagles, as I mentioned, are gonna win this game 31 to 24. I think that you know it'll be a closer game, but ultimately I just trust Jaylen Hertz more than I trust, you know, dak Prescott, I will concede that the Cowboys defense is better than the Eagles defense at this current moment in time, in our way more consistent, but I think that you know is canceled out by the Eagles offensive line and by Jaylen Hertz versatility. So that would be my game and if you wanted to get any more into that, or if you had another call your shot game that you haven't mentioned yet, yeah, I know I was like I've pretty much mentioned, like all my Run through them again.

Speaker 2: 57:55

Real quick, just real quick.

Speaker 1: 57:58

So first, first one we had was the Kansas City Money line, because we don't, we don't. I want to mess around with that again mess with these spreads, no more. Then we have the bangles money line as well, and then it gets kind of gross from here.

Speaker 2: 58:15

I don't want anything to do with these games.

Speaker 1: 58:18

So Okay, this is the other one that I have. Bear with me on this.

Speaker 2: 58:22

Okay, okay.

Speaker 1: 58:23

This is. This is the wounded duck theory going on here.

Speaker 2: 58:27

All right so we had a Yep.

Speaker 1: 58:33

Our wounded, wounded tiger. I mean these, these, these guys, they're so hurt. They're nothing tigers about them like, but I'm talking about the Raiders All right, I had coach, fire the everybody. Yeah, Clearinghouse and they. And they, they're, they have a linebacking coach, or something like that one of the.

Speaker 1: 59:02

Yeah, calling the plays. He's never called plays before like he Got called up from or he escaped his his allegations that he had in In college where I guess he was like paying people money under the table or something like that, and then instead of serving his suspension he just bounced and went to the NFL. So it got a real sketchy guy calling the plays and I love everything about it. All right.

Speaker 1: 59:31

He's ready to run through a wall for him already, so Like, like you got, you got O'Connell back there who looked good in the preseason. But I mean, exactly, that's my, that's my thing.

Speaker 2: 59:46

I Know I started, I started to Montana and sees on my fantasy team and I I cannot scream at my television enough when Jimmy G G miss too wide open like a potential 97-yard touchdown pass and a potential like 60-yard bomb to Devontae Adams and I feel for Devontae. So you know, I the change of scenery in, you know, just firing everybody. I'm not, you know, I don't blame them.

Speaker 1: 1:00:12

Yeah and like so. Also, the, the Giants get rid of Williams as well too, which is one of their main run-stopping Defenders. And you have Josh Jacobs coming in here looking for some more production out of them, and I think he's gonna be able to have a pretty big week. And then we have O'Connell just Back up quarterbacks. When they come in and a scarce spot, they just find their best player and just target him a million times. So I'm not gonna go over on the, on the yardage, because I'm not sure you know how, oh yeah, but but they for sure will get him the ball. I honestly, I just talking about this, I, I like that prop. I didn't even think about it until now, but I do like the Viking, or the Vikings, the Raiders.

Speaker 2: 1:01:02

Pick of the week.

Speaker 1: 1:01:04

Yep gross pick of the week money line. We're taking it.

Speaker 2: 1:01:09

And Daniel Jones has no injury designation.

Speaker 1: 1:01:12

It is returning back to play this game, so it will be a note I rod Taylor, I ride Tyrod. Taylor looks better than Daniel's own, so I'm I'm pleased to hear that love it Fair enough.

Speaker 2: 1:01:25

Player, prop what you got.

Speaker 1: 1:01:27

Actually I have a couple more. A couple more on the, the old oh you got the shot.

Speaker 2: 1:01:32

Second, you got the, that's the unders on games and stuff.

Speaker 1: 1:01:37

No, I do have one over, though, um oh yeah. Yeah, it's a rare over at museum under under through and through.

Speaker 2: 1:01:45

But I'll go rapid fire with these here.

Speaker 1: 1:01:49

We're gonna go with the jets here plus three and a half. This is a beautiful spot for the jets to To cover this game. I won't want to say they're gonna win outright, but it's three and a half and getting that hook Most games and planning on three Scary about anything like that.

Speaker 1: 1:02:05

It is very scary. But why is the line only three and a half if the chargers are looking rather elite? But yet the the, the, the market's telling you it's only only three, three and a half point favorites, you know, I mean Not only that, but the chargers are coming off of a blowout victory which shouldn't have actually been as big of a victory as it ended up showing when they were playing against them, the Bears that is. They missed so many, so many passes that were players were just butt naked wide open running down the field, or players were Just dropping passes in the end zone that could have resulted in an even closer game. And that's the Bears. That's a, don't get me wrong. I love my, I love my D2 colleges. Out there, shout out to Central Washington, I'm saying, but at the same time, he's a different player.

Speaker 1: 1:03:00

But at the same time he's a D2 quarterback.

Speaker 2: 1:03:03

He's slinging the ball around and we know how we feel about Brandon Staley, okay.

Speaker 1: 1:03:08

We know how we feel about Brandon Staley and his his prowess on defense, because he's supposed to be a Defensive guy, right, but he actually has one of the worst defenses in the league. So I think you bring in Zach Wilson slinging the ball around, gun slinging, as he usually does, knowledge play, but he will be comparable and he'll do the the old Kenny pick it Throw like one slant pass to Garrett Wilson. He'll take it to the house and that'll be enough or all these all took like a 50 yard dump off to the house.

Speaker 1: 1:03:41

Yep, or or definitely breeze haul. That's actually like a mini preview into my I call your prop segment as well too. But yeah, so give me, give me the, the Jets, plus three and a half here, to at least cover. I don't know if they're gonna win, but they'll at least cover, goddamn it there. Last but not least, we have our, our Colts. See you, I, every week I've given you that stad about Gardner Minchie, about how he just doesn't ever win, and and so I, I'm gonna do it, I, I'm gonna go with them to.

Speaker 2: 1:04:28

Win this shoe finally.

Speaker 1: 1:04:30

I mean, I don't know if I'm coming around on them, but I do. It's more so more of a fade of the Panthers and and as opposed to a play on the on the Colts.

Speaker 2: 1:04:41

No, you love gardener, minchie, it's fine.

Speaker 1: 1:04:43

I Don't know if it probably won't be anything to do with Gardner Minchie for being real here, but, that being said, we're also going up against we, as if I'm like a big Colts fan, I am now go Colts but they're also going up against a very Subpar defense. Run defense, that is, and defense in general.

Speaker 1: 1:05:16

Yeah, exactly so. Fade them after winning the first game. Who knows when they'll get another one. So but yeah, so they. They have currently the worst ranked defense per pro football focus and per my, my model as well, for what it's worth. And you have Jonathan Taylor coming in there. He's gonna. He's gotten his most snaps of the year so far in the last game, which is kind of weird because they played him a lot in the first half and then they were like, okay, you're doing too Well, let's just take him out in second half and then just get Zach Moss's touches. Yeah, I think this is gonna be a big game for Jonathan Taylor as well, as the Colts as well. And they, for some reason, all of their games. They scored over 20 points in every single game there. I think there's only one other team that's done that. I remember who it was. If that isn't, if there's not another team that's done it, then they are the only team probably.

Speaker 1: 1:06:16

I Think so. Yeah, I have to double check that, but but yeah, so that that's crazy right there. So I'm taking the over as well in this game. You got, you know, you got this new regime out there, talked about it last week, got the big win for me and somehow Adam Thelan's receiving yards is still down in like the the mid 60s, which makes no sense. But, yeah, I'm taking the over in this game as well. I think there's gonna be a lot of offense going on and Yep, so Colts and over for me.

Speaker 2: 1:06:52

Fair enough. Fair enough, I don't hate any of those. So I'm gonna try to speed up through here, finishing out the NFL with our call your prop or, yeah, call your prop segment. So I'll get started with you. I'll just give you my two. First one's gonna be Dallas Carter.

Speaker 2: 1:07:02

I'm just going all in on this Eagles Cowboys game. I think that they're gonna have to do everything they can to try to hone in on AJ Brown, who, again, who's been 125 for the past six games with a touchdown, I think, or something like that and Devontae Smith. So I think that it's gonna. You know, even though I think that the offensive line for the Eagles is good, I think that, you know, cowboys are eventually gonna get some pressure, so I think that they will throw more to.

Speaker 2: 1:07:23

Dallas Carter, who's kind of been like inconsistent this year, especially compared to last year. He was a focal point of the offense, is usually the third option after AJ Brown and Devontae Smith, but he's had a lot of up and down games. So I think this is gonna be another get-right game for him, as he's come on over the past three or four games. So that would be my first over 40.5 receiving yards, and then my second is going to be as we. I think you alluded to is breeze Hall, over 17.5 receiving yards. Saw it last week. You could any touch that breeze Hall gets, he could take it to the house.

Speaker 1: 1:07:53

I'm receiving yards.

Speaker 2: 1:07:55

Yeah, I'm going receiving yards. It's over 17.5 receiving yards, okay. So I thought that was pretty solid. He's you know people talk about him being a great Russian stuff and you know the efficiency hasn't been the greatest. He's had a lot of up and down games where he's you know he'll rush for 100 plus yards, but then I think you only had like 17 carries for like 30 or 40 yards last game. But I think that him, as a versatile running back and being a good receiver, will be I think that's only like two or three receptions. So I think that he'll be able to easily get over 17.5 yards against the Chargers, who I think are gonna put points on the board. So the you know the Jets are gonna have to do everything they can try to move the ball down the field and at times when they can't get the ball to Garrett Wilson, breeze Hall is usually the next best thing. So that would be my two thoughts on that drew, and what are your two as well?

Speaker 1: 1:08:42

Yeah, I mean one thing when it comes to Pass rushes, when they, when they get on you quick, you you're gonna look for the. The easy option and the easy out in the shortest pass that you can make is going typically be to the tight end. So that pick makes sense, for I got it to go over his prop and then breeze Hall, that that one also. I mean breeze Hall, everything For me, because if they're gonna, if they're gonna do anything in this game, it's gonna be through breeze Hall and and Garrett Wilson kind of feel bad down cook.

Speaker 1: 1:09:13

At this point I mean he has to be traded.

Speaker 2: 1:09:15

They said now you just gonna sit here on this bench and watch breeze hall cook like yeah it's like Well, I mean because it's it's an insurance policy too right. So he's like to carry to.

Speaker 1: 1:09:27

it hasn't been great for down cook yeah but it's also one of those things where you know you're, you're, you're, if you're, player, if you're running back that just had an ACL Tear, like if he goes down he's more likely to be injured. So you don't want to just be, you know, sol at the end of the day.

Speaker 1: 1:09:48

So yeah, it makes sense to me at least um, I am gonna go up with another breeze Hall pick, but I'm gonna go with the over 56 and a half rushing yards. Um, going against the Chargers. The Chargers have notoriously been very bad At stopping the run, no matter who they're playing, and they're currently ranked 24th per pro football focus and run defense. So I I don't know, like I said before, if, if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen through um, through breeze Hall, and then you throw on the fact that the, the Jets are 10th right now and run block efficiency, uh, and then you know you have the 24th ranked rush defense. Like, I don't don't over complicate it.

Speaker 2: 1:10:39

You know what I mean.

Speaker 1: 1:10:40

Yeah, formula that way um, and then we have our our good friend, lamar Jackson. We're not going with the rushing yards this week. Let's, let's try something new. Let's go with the passing yards, all right. How? How do we try that All?

Speaker 2: 1:10:58

right One of these you gotta go over on something right. There's rushing touchdowns, now, next, don't worry.

Speaker 1: 1:11:06

No, anything, um, but Yep, we're going over with his uh, with his passing yards this week sitting at 65. No, okay, um, we'll see. Do you want to do? You want to do? You want to call your?

Speaker 2: 1:11:23

shot no no.

Speaker 1: 1:11:25

I think you sounded so confident.

Speaker 2: 1:11:26

Hey, you know, talk to your maths man. Yeah, explain your play of confidence.

Speaker 1: 1:11:30

You said it as if you had like tomorrow's newspaper. So I was just wondering, you know?

Speaker 2: 1:11:34

ball Hawks.

Speaker 1: 1:11:36

Okay, um, anyways, we're probably so rudely interrupted. Uh, they're going against the seahawks who, yeah, According to like some metrics, they have been a pretty solid secondary and pretty solid defense. But we've talked about this multiple times before. They're playing against the dtrs of the world and the Uh, the injured joe burrows where he's throwing for average depth of target is four yards. Um, you know like. So the the caliber of players that they've played against so far Hasn't been Elite drew, never played against it.

Speaker 2: 1:12:10

They could win the Super Bowl this year, he like. Oh well.

Speaker 1: 1:12:13

They haven't played against the canadian football league. Yet the competition football league, you know, shout out to, uh, shout out to clay pool out there, you know you. But anyways, um, yeah, no I. I think that the marjaxon has. He's a man with the plan and he is going to at least minimum get over 225. So help me, god I.

Speaker 2: 1:12:40

I'm.

Speaker 1: 1:12:42

That is uh. I like my pick right there.

Speaker 2: 1:12:44

That sounds pretty safe. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. Okay, there we go. So that wraps up the NFL.

Speaker 1: 1:12:50

Well, wow, sorry, oh, you got more. You know me, I'm, I'm never done. I Go all day with this stuff.

Speaker 2: 1:12:56

Uh.

Speaker 1: 1:12:57

I have two, two last ones here. Um, we're gonna go with uh. Jonathan taylor over.

Speaker 1: 1:13:04

Exactly A lot of averages, right? You know one of these guys I have, um, jonathan taylor, over rushing yards. You already kind of alluded to this before we me I alluded to this before um, that the panthers have the worst run defense in the league, um, and I mean, do you give me a uh, potentially holofame running back if you can stay healthy? Um, or at least the offensive player of the year With 65 and a half rushing yards, yeah, yeah, I'll take that.

Speaker 2: 1:13:35

It's actually possible to bolt through in these touches and touchdowns? I swear yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:13:39

I mean, you can get all the touchdowns he wants as long as he, as long as jonathan taylor gets 65 and a half rushing yards, I'm cool with that priorities, you know me. So, um, and then another one from this game, like I didn't do it last week because I was scared with the new offensive change and everything like that. If you're gonna, if you're gonna continue to put adam thielen down there at 65 and a half receiving yards and he's gone over it.

Speaker 2: 1:14:00

I can't make no bets on this man. I don't. I don't. You were talking so much junk about him. He's all historic, okay, he's open. I don't care if he's old, he's open always. And bro that's all brights love. No, he's adam thielen's over there somewhere like it.

Speaker 1: 1:14:16

It it made like it. It seems like a trap. You know what I mean. Like every time, like it. Why is it something?

Speaker 2: 1:14:22

that we don't, though, because they gave them the. They look. He gave him a bag for being 34. I think. They gave him a two or three year contract for, like a mold I think, 10, 20 million or something like that. I actually gave him a pretty good contract.

Speaker 1: 1:14:33

I guess I mean. So so far this year, adam thielen's gone over his prop. Uh, six out of the seven times that he's played. So, like I, I don't get it. And with the line currently sitting at 65 and a half, he's gone over that. He's five and two against that record. So, or against that line, what, like? What am I missing? Like I, yeah, and they're going against the defense that keeps on giving up. Like they give up 38 points or whatever. It was. 30 something points to the saints. The saints can't move like a boat that's in the water with wind blown behind it. Like this is I. Oh my god, lock it up Until until they changed this number. Watch this, this could be the week.

Speaker 2: 1:15:19

I like both those picks. Yeah, I know it's every single week I'm like feeling like he can't keep doing this. He can't keep doing this. You know all they, you know all love does is throw him the ball. He's gonna get his 12 targets. Yeah, yeah. No, they signed with three year 25 million deals so he stopped signed until, basically, he's about to be 37 years old. So I think the last one is a two option.

Speaker 1: 1:15:38

Uh, this, this wasn't one of my picks until I started talking about it when I was talking about the Raiders, but it is now one of my picks. I'm gonna take, uh, uh, devante Adams. I don't even know what his profit is, but I'm gonna take Devante Adams over receptions. Let me see what is at here. Um, but more of the story is Basically, you have this rookie quarterback coming in and he's gonna be basically pooping his pants every time he sees the pass rush coming. Where's Devante Adams? And finally, finally, finally, can we get somebody to throw him the damn ball? I, like I said before, the many, oh, his shoulders hurt, I don't care, it's Devante Adams. You throw him the ball. Even when he's not open, you throw him the ball.

Speaker 2: 1:16:23

Okay, could be 6.5 is fell under for reception yes, 75.5.

Speaker 1: 1:16:29

Yep, I'll take the six and a half Uh over on that one as well, and that'll wrap up our segment there.

Speaker 2: 1:16:37

There we go, wrapping up. Nfl is gonna be a jam-packed episode.