NFL Week 9 & 10 Recap and Week 11 Preview

This week on the Call Your Shot podcast, we're dissecting the NFL season with a surgeon's precision. We've got power rankings, surprise performances, and a thorough evaluation of the inconsistencies plaguing the NFL. We'll be discussing the unexpected dominance of Josh Dobbs against the Saints, and the implications for teams that overlooked him. We’re also zooming in on the Jets' controversial decision to stick with Zach Wilson as their starting quarterback. 

We'll critique the underwhelming Buffalo Bills and the turnovers of their star player, Josh Allen. We'll also venture into an analysis of the Lions, and the performances of Jameer Gibbs and David Montgomery. We’re rounding it all up with our predictions for the Week 9 matchups

We're also taking you on a ride with us to the upcoming showdowns. We'll explore what Justin Fields' return could mean for the Detroit vs. Chicago game. We'll wrap it all up with a reminder to subscribe, download, and share the podcast with your sports-loving friends and family. So kick back, tune in, and join us for another thrilling episode of Call Your Shot.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Welcome to the Call your Shot podcast, your weekly sports recap podcast, where we break down the hottest headlines, dissect the latest injuries and serve up our own hard hitting analysis of the past weekend sports. But that's not all. We're not just here to talk about the past, we're here to predict the future as well. On the Call your Shot podcast, we boldly predict the outcomes of the upcoming weeks games.

Speaker 2: 0:23

Hello everybody, thank you for listening. This is the Call your Shot podcast with your host, alex Harrison, drew Moore. Today's episode we're going to get into the NFL season over the past couple of weeks, get into our power rankings actually so the top five teams we currently have in the NFL, finishing out with our Call your Shot segments, and then we're going to hop right into the NBA. So getting started in the NFL, drew, were there any major key games over the past two weeks that you really wanted to get into, or do you want to get straight into the power rankings?

Speaker 1: 0:48

I mean I'll address the elephant in the room. Joshua Dobbs went down and dominated my Saints and you know it's tough being a Saints fan going against Minnesota. I should have known better. We never played good against Minnesota.

Speaker 2: 1:06

This is true.

Speaker 1: 1:08

And it's one of those things, too, where Josh Dobbs is still statistically speaking and just saying this dad's say that he is not a good quarterback, but what I see out there is Astro Boy out here slinging the ball left and right, looking like Joe Montana, nick's with, like you know, steve Young and I don't even know. But this is, this is ridiculous. Honestly, I'm at a loss for words. James tried his best to come back, but then he also did his best, james as well, where?

Speaker 2: 1:45

he was the answer for a while, and then I did, I did James, did James things.

Speaker 1: 1:50

Yeah. So I mean, yeah, I it's tough because I want to continue trying to fade this team, but I just I'm just going to stay away from their games from from here for a little bit until I find another opportunity to bet against them. This week would be a good opportunity, but I'm I'm scared. I don't know what's going to happen with that team.

Speaker 2: 2:21

And Joshua Dobbs doing all this without a wide receiver, one. When he was in, you know, arizona, marquis Brown was his best receiver, and now he's been playing for the Vikings without even Justin Jefferson, who should be coming back this week. So I mean, a sky's the limit.

Speaker 1: 2:34

I think the craziest thing, too is is the fact that the Jets had an opportunity to get this guy there. Actually, all all 31 other teams that didn't have that didn't have Arizona heard that and have Arizona, they didn't have Josh Dobbs, had an opportunity to get Josh Dobbs, but they all elected. Now we're good, we're going to go with who we got. We trust our guy, Zach Wilson, go out there and be a gunslinger, throw the ball around. We trust to Sean Watson. Well, we kind of have to, not with that case scenario. But I mean, even as a backup quarterback, you want DTR as your backup quarterback, Like I.

Speaker 2: 3:10

I don't know what's going on with these teams. I understand some of the team, but like the Jets, specifically were Robert solid is like for impressed on keeping Zach Wilson as they're starting quarterback. Over the past two weeks I think they had like one offensive touchdown, which is that like dump off to Breeze Hall and he's was getting interviewed after the loss that they had this last week. He's like I don't know. I actually think Zach Wilson's been playing pretty good. I'm like bro, like we're just going to keep lying to ourselves or what.

Speaker 1: 3:34

I think it's been quickly from Roy. I think it's been like 40, 40, 40 or 50 quarters since they've scored a touchdown that has come off of a play that wasn't off on, like a one play drive, because all the times that they've had have been on 60 yards or Breeze Hall yeah.

Speaker 1: 3:59

And so so it's. I think there's some. You know, let me get my tinfoil hat on over here there's some upper management's got to be pulling some strings right here because Zach Wilson's uncle or grandpa or somebody in his family owns JetBlue right, and so they obviously have a bunch of pole and what goes on Spearcy theories now. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, and there ain't no way that Robert Sala can look people in the eye and, with a straight face, say that he is the best quarterback that gives us the opportunity to win.

Speaker 1: 4:36

So, I'm putting on my conspiracy hat, all right, and I'm saying that somebody's pulling the strings behind the curtains, because there ain't no way that Zach Wilson should be an NFL quarterback in this day and age, point blank period.

Speaker 2: 4:51

Legit. So I don't know what they're doing. The Vikings did it for Joshua Dobbs got him. The Rams even signed Carson Wentz after Matthew Stafford's been having his injuries, and things like that, and they're. I don't know what the judge are doing, man, I really don't. And then it seemed like it was working because they went on a little win streak and all that kind of stuff. And then you know, they're like three and three and they're like, oh my goodness, Robert Sala is a genius and now they cannot move the ball for anything. So it's not looking great, but people are saying Aaron Rodgers is supposed to.

Speaker 2: 5:20

You know, get back out there pretty soon. We're going to keep on.

Speaker 1: 5:26

If this man actually goes out there and plays in December, it's going to be the worst decision of his career.

Speaker 1: 5:34

Like because that could actually end his career. If he goes out, does that get re-ruptors his Achilles and you know, I don't care what he's saying like, oh, I'm, you know, going to work on advancing my program. If you have a good patient and a good doctor, it's a perfect combo. Okay, good doctor, sure Surgery, successful, great, that's that's. You know, step number one. Set number two right there and then set number three a good patient. Well, if you consider yourself to be a good patient, then you'd be following the typical protocol of what the doctor wants you to do, not following your own protocol where you're trying to get back within. What is it like? Four months of the injury, as opposed to when most people get back at the earliest is six months, and that's return to play or return to participation, not return to performance. So and there's a huge difference between the two in terms of the quality of the tissue and the player's ability to actually well perform. And I don't care who you are, unless you're God, you cannot speed up the healing process of the body.

Speaker 1: 6:47

Like the body is going to heal at whatever pace it's going to heal at, you can't change that Like. So, whatever he says, he's not playing. And if he does play he's going to get hurt.

Speaker 2: 6:58

So a couple of weeks back they had a much better reason for it. You know, they were four and three firmly in the wild car position and now they're four and five and currently 13th day of C. So it doesn't even look like there'd bea recent hurry to come back at all. So exactly that's that. So, continuing on, I'll just cover a couple of a few of these games that happened in week 10 here.

Speaker 2: 7:19

If you want to get into any of them, let me know how the Bears beat the Panthers. Colts ended up being the Patriots. The Texan CJ Stroud ended up beating Joe Burr on the Bengals in the 30 to 27 game, which was very surprising to many people as the Texans were playing pretty hurt. The Steelers ended up being the Packers. In another kind of low scoring game, Bucks beat the Titans, the Browns in a surprise upset against the Ravens. I don't understand how the Browns are winning game the scoring points, but they keep surprising people and it's kind of where they did it with DeSean Watson, but now he is out for the rest of the season as he has had a shoulder injury.

Speaker 2: 7:54

So, yeah, what are your thoughts on that game?

Speaker 1: 7:58

Okay. So I wrote this down because I'm at the old school in this, because I was watching the same, and I'm like I got to write this down. This is ridiculous, so here let me. So this is how the game started, right Pick six for the Ravens Cool, great, awesome. Things are looking good, things looking great. Then they're up by you know 24, nine that's great, looking good, looking great. 31, 17. Sick, this is awesome About the cover. Make it look easy too. And then things started to go downhill from here 16.

Speaker 2: 8:30

Oh, run in the fourth quarter yeah.

Speaker 1: 8:33

And the Browns are now the only team we can. We can even say this millennia, because it's never happened in the history of the NFL or of the past millennia. The Browns are the only team to trail for 59 minutes and 20 seconds in a game and win. They literally only led in the game for 40 seconds and that was when they kicked that, that game winning field goal. There are 60 minutes in a game, you're telling me. You're telling me they. They trailed for 59 minutes and 20 seconds and they won.

Speaker 2: 9:16

like I, yeah, I mean it was. It was definitely a surprise. And you know the Browns really have been doing this. They had upsets against the 49ers.

Speaker 2: 9:25

Now they have upsets against the Ravens and we mentioned this last week a little bit on Saturday, like you know, had confidence in the Ravens beating the Browns, but they have laid eggs and kind of had played to their competition when they kind of go against these lesser teams and obviously the Browns are six and three now, but you know the Ravens had lost to the Colts and they had lost to the Steelers, so they had some ugly losses and stuff on top of their, you know great runs, especially against the NFC. But I mean this was very surprising and I did not expect this at all. So now the Browns only sit one game, basically half a game back, because they would have the tiebreak. Well, they would split at one at one. So they were a full game back against the Ravens in the AFC South right now or AC North. But that was definitely surprising and I was definitely surprised, yeah, I mean even.

Speaker 1: 10:09

Even with that, though, like I Like if you were to tell me that, okay, dishon Watson is gonna be there for the rest of the season, then maybe sure he can get back to like 50% of what he was back at as the Houston Texan. But, if you're gonna have DTR running the offense out there, that's even worse than the situation that the Jets are in, where they have Zach Wilson and out there trying to Patrol the offense that being said, I'm also I.

Speaker 1: 10:40

I am. I'm giving myself a rule to never, ever, ever, believe in the Jets ever again, to win anything in life, and at least not in my lifetime. I will never be betting on another Jets game. From this point forward. If you see me betting on a Jets game, slap me across the face and then tell me why are you betting on a Jets game? And I will understand. I'll be. Oh, dude, you're right, or girl, you know what you write to. So From this point forward, I will never be betting on the Jets.

Speaker 2: 11:11

And, as Drew is alluding to, the Jets did lose to the Ravens in a 12 to 16 game. The Raiders, or the Raiders Sorry Raiders that Wilson went 23 or 39 for 263 yards in one interception and again we're not able to really move the ball down the field very often. The Raiders are now 2 and 0 since the Basically cleaning of house that they had with the entire coaching staff, ngm. Basically. So Interesting notes and others in a five and five, and the Raven and the Jets are sitting at four and five. The last one is to close out. We had the Lions beating the Chargers in a shootout. We had the Cowboys destroying the Giants again coming off a close loss they had against the Eagles the week prior.

Speaker 1: 11:51

I told you it wasn't enough, man.

Speaker 2: 11:57

I forgot that Daniel Jones wasn't starting and it was still, you know, devito.

Speaker 1: 12:03

DeVito the night with his parents and since that lives with his parents, I should say nothing wrong with their parents. We love people that live with their parents. But you know, like, because they lit him up, it was.

Speaker 2: 12:17

And last but certainly not least, we had the Broncos in a surprise upset I don't even know if it's right upset anymore against the bills, as they are able to beat the bills 24 to 22. What were your thoughts on that? Game drew and I mean we both talked about it before the game started, for the podcast started like the bills are now sitting at five and five and they're Out of the playoff contention completely, entirely right now, not even really close to a wild card spot. So that, do you even feel like they could squeak into the playoffs at this point, or do you feel like the season's basically lost right now?

Speaker 1: 12:49

No, like you were saying, we were talking about this earlier and their schedule right now is like, from this point forward is a gauntlet. So yeah, they were, they were supposed to already have a bunch of their wins in the pocket, in pocket at this point in time and they're kind of, you know, play Maybe not 5050 football down the stretch. But I mean, even you know, winning 60% of those games or whatever now would still allow them to be a Deep playoff contender. But now I mean, it's not even Looking like they're gonna make the playoffs, and Vegas also agrees with that too. Like that it's, it's plus 200 or so or longer for them to make the playoffs, which basically means that they have like less than a 30% chance of making the playoffs right now. So it's not looking good for these guys, and I mean just watching the game too. It, it, it, I. It just makes no sense. I don't understand it, because they're messing up all of my. They're messing up part of my model in terms of Like making me look bad.

Speaker 1: 13:53

Well, I mean not only that, but like in turn, because it was telling me to bet on the bills, but I was. I thankfully didn't listen to the model that time, but currently the the bills are third in EPA and their first and offensive play success. Like what? So I, I don't know, I have no idea how they're loo. I know how they're losing these games. Josh Allen Isn't fully to blame, but he is definitely a large piece in that, a cog in the wheel of their terrible play blame.

Speaker 1: 14:31

Not completely, though, like they can score 22 points. Okay, yeah, but they also can't run the ball. And if you can't run the ball, then you can't pass the ball, because then they just play back on everybody yards. Well, that was after that they had taken out James Cook because he fumbled. And they're like right, they take him out and then they were like oh wait, actually that's like our best running.

Speaker 2: 14:55

Through a pick, then he lost, fumbled, then he threw another pick. So I'm like bro.

Speaker 1: 15:00

Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, like, statistically speaking, other than his, his turnovers and stuff like that, I still think that he is playing better than what he normally has been playing in terms of in terms of passing ability and making Great throws, but along with those great throws, he's got a lot of James in them this year, in the past couple years too, to where he's making all these great throws and he's making all these plays, but then the turnovers are at the worst possible time and it's really, I know I I Struggled to say that it's solely on him, because he's he's been doing this for the past two years, right, and it's a lot of the offensive scheme that they're running to. And I mean, you can't oversight the the injuries on the defense as well, because every, every offense has gone in there since Matt Milano got hurt has just been doing whatever they want. However, they want to do it.

Speaker 2: 16:07

I mean, like, given all of the injuries that they face, though, I think that their defense has actually played decently because, you know, after that, going to the dolphins game, they were able to hold the dolphins 20 points, they held the Jax 25, the Giants to 9, patriots 29 that's the most points have given up in the past eight weeks and then 18 for the Bills Are 18 for the Bucks, 24 for the Bengals, and then the Broncos score 24 points. So I mean, their defense is hurt and injured, but I Think that they've been able to hold teams to a decent amount. I just don't think the bills have really been able to score, which goes to what you have been talking about with Josh Allen, the turnovers that just being at very unopportune moments.

Speaker 1: 16:41

So mm-hmm, yeah, cuz. I mean in terms of like turn over, where the plays only has six this year and I mean that's, that's like one of the lowest rates or, apologies, you know he has 10 this year which is tied for third lowest this season. So tonight, I don't know, like his turnover luck I guess you can call it has been very in an opportune times and I Guess sure yeah, it is costing them games. Sal Palantoneo, who he's a Sportswriter and he mainly follows the Philadelphia Eagles and I said that really weird Philadelphia Eagles he talked about this thing that you want to make sure that you always boxes, that you want to check and it's called reps.

Speaker 1: 17:34

It's reliable, are you efficient and are you productive? And right now he's not very. He's not been very reliable. He hasn't been all that efficient. He's been kind of efficient but not as efficient as we're accustomed to seeing and he's not really producing up to his, up to his full potential that we've, that we've been accustomed to over the past a few years. And Again, I think that is also a lot to do with scheme, because you should be Targeting Stefan digs more often than what they are. Even I don't care, I just just like with the onesie Adams. I don't care if that man is double team, triple teamed, whatever, he's always open like I bet on it, yeah, and you scheme plays for your player to get open, like you're.

Speaker 1: 18:30

You're telling me that Like you can have. You can have Josh Dobbs go out there to a team he literally just learned their playbook last week and he and Kevin O'Connell can scheme up plays where his, his defenders are ours. Wide receivers are wide open. Defenders are looking silly like, yeah, how, how hard can it really be if I'm like he, again rocket scientists?

Speaker 2: 18:54

but Photographic memory.

Speaker 1: 18:57

Yeah. So I don't know. I just think that I don't think it's all on him like I, because he ultimately is a an elite quarterback, but I don't know.

Speaker 2: 19:10

I don't know. Yes, I've become a.

Speaker 1: 19:13

Josh Allen truth, or this year. Usually I'm the one Bastion them. Now I'm the one it's trying to build them back up.

Speaker 2: 19:20

Yeah, a lot of football fans, stuff like that, definitely our bashing them on social media.

Speaker 2: 19:24

Even you know Trvon digs, who was commenting about Stefan, like you know what he was before Stefan got here right and then kind of like showed the stance of how turnover prone Josh Allen was and his efficiency was down, all that kind of stuff. So it is very interesting. As we mentioned, the bills do have a very tough gauntlet to close out the season, as they play the Jets this upcoming week, which they should be able to win. Then they play the Eagles, chiefs, cowboys, chargers, patriots, who they've already lost to, and then the Dolphins, which is going to be a tough game to For week 17 overall. So it is definitely gonna have the need for the bills to go on a little win streak here in order to squeak in, to play off as a wild card. So we'll have to wait and see. With that, that's pretty much it for this last week drew. So if you want to get your power rankings list, if you want to go first, Yep, so again I'm going to a little old school here today.

Speaker 1: 20:13

So, number one, I have the 49ers. I think that I have them up there because when they're healthy they are the most dominant and complete team. It's just a matter of, like we always said, when they're healthy and we saw that last week that's why I had them, as one of my plays was that they had a full compliment of their, their receivers and also a healthy offensive line as well. And I mean they're also going against, I think, overrated Jacksonville team who hasn't really played all that much competition. Um, granted, sure, yeah, they be Kansas City, whatever, whoo, but other than that you know like I don't know that they're.

Speaker 2: 21:00

Exactly flu gaze they lost. They lost to Kansas City. That they be can see no, they lost like 17 to 9.

Speaker 1: 21:09

Interesting. Regardless. They oh, that's what it was people were saying that their, their defense was able to hold Kansas City.

Speaker 1: 21:18

Yeah because people were talking about how elite their defense was and everything. And Brock Purdy Made it look, purdy, out there when he was throwing the ball all over the place to wide open receivers and so, yep, that's my number one scene. Number two it's still gonna be Baltimore. I think it was just a huge look ahead spot for our letdown spot for the Ravens there, even though it's a divisional game, so you don't really consider it a letdown spot or a look ahead spot. But they were looking ahead to a more comparable opponent, which they thought was more comparable Opponent in the Bengals who are there, who they're playing this week, who they shall beat my dad and yeah. So I think it was just a letdown spot for them right there. And if you have Lamar Jackson not fiddling around with the football, throwing it off of people's helmets, throwing pick sixes and interceptions and stuff, then I mean they win that game. I could use that.

Speaker 1: 22:27

Number three I have Kansas City. I mean it's not really much explanation needed. It's Kansas City that every year that that they've been at, every year that they've had Patrick Mahomes at the starter, they've been successful. They've made it to the FC Championship and it's mainly just a matter of Staying healthy and having the right players Healthy at the right time and building that chemistry. Because the way Patrick Mahomes operates, he throws a lot of no look passes there was a lot of like has a lot of unplanned plays and a lot of scramble drill plays as well Do, where he's just roaming around in the pocket and then Rolling out to the right and then all of a sudden he just throws it, like you know, 40 yards down the court, down the court, down the field, to somebody that just like improvised on the route and then tow, drag, swag, catch. So Number 344, I can count, is gonna be Philly. So Philly scares me because they do this thing. I don't know why they never play good against the commanders and I Always hold on to those games because they just linger in the back of my head. Then they go against like another team and they're supposed to have this elite defense and they don't really stop anybody, but then they just score at will and AJ Brown just can't be stopped. So and I think that I think that going into the buy like they did last week is going to be really beneficial for them to get Healthy. Jalen Hertz was banged up with a few different injuries and stuff and even on certain plays he was visibly limping back to the hull Before the the next snap. So I think that coming into this next game against Kansas City is Going to be a real telltale sign of where the team's at and I I kind of lean KC, but it's scary as well.

Speaker 1: 24:33

Last but not least, have a new addition to my top five, the Lions. So I I mean, was that Tony Romo on the call of that game where he was like, oh my god, just every play is just so beautiful I just can't help it like. But to be honest, like this game that they're that they're running out there, I'd be surprised if there was. He doesn't get a head coaching offer at minimum. But I do think that Jared Goff is a very underrated Potential MVP candidate this year, even though, like everybody has, like you know, one bad game and he had his one bad game against the Ravens. And I mean, if you're, one bad game is against the Ravens and they're considered to be one of the best teams in the league, like you know, it's understandable, you can get a pass for that, no pun intended. But currently, as the Pro football focus ratings go, he has the second highest rated quarterback, only below Tua. So, and that's only by two points so.

Speaker 2: 25:38

I think that's super underrated Yep.

Speaker 1: 25:41

I think that he's definitely elevated his game. The Lions secondary has also played I don't want to say over their skis, but they've definitely outperformed what a lot of people were thinking. And the combination of Jameer Gibbs and my RB one, david Montgomery, doing all that work back there, opening up wide open passes to along Ross St Brown it just match made in heaven. And then you got the rookie tied into La Porta, like I'm checking all the boxes, so nice.

Speaker 2: 26:16

Would you prefer, because I know you like both of them. Would you prefer Montgomery or Gibbs? At this point, can you say my running back one to different, my government, which you've been on this all year, yeah.

Speaker 1: 26:29

So like I was obviously very high on Jameer Gibbs coming into the season, I drafted him in three different leagues, two different three different leagues but in the other other leagues that I don't have to make it, I have Dave Montgomery, so I Mean Touchdown exactly I was, like he's saved my bacon multiple weeks. I think if you, if you want Like a baseline, then you go for Dave Montgomery. Okay, you know what he's gonna get. He's always gonna get like hella touches for no reason.

Speaker 1: 27:05

And he's always gonna be somewhat productive too, and he was always pretty good when he was playing in in.

Speaker 2: 27:12

Chicago too yeah.

Speaker 1: 27:15

But it was just a matter of having a garbage offensive line and a garbage team. It's a place of action, I mean, yeah, I just is a little bit so Like that doesn't help him at all. And then on top of that, they didn't use him as a pass catcher, which they don't now either, but I'm him being the only you know option, like on the ground in Chicago, and then have throwing it to not Kalu Harbour but Tariq Cohen Out of the backfield instead of him. Like, if you have a dominant running back, then use them as much as you can, not 56 to Rikoam. Now, I love our five, six folks, but you know, just not as a running back that you use for more snaps than you do Dave Montgomery. And when you're losing more often than you're winning, you're not gonna be running the ball as much. So then your best player is not even on the field. Make it make sense.

Speaker 2: 28:12

But this is true. Very nice grass. I agree with your list. I have the same teams just in a little bit different order. My number one would be the Eagles. Still there, one bad loss away from being nine, and oh and.

Speaker 1: 28:25

They're also like a few different that are a few inches away from being like I don't know. Seven and two.

Speaker 2: 28:32

Hey, but they're not. That would still be my thing. That's still probably gonna be a homer pig, just from my NFC pigs, but I would still have them. They haven't looked pretty and they haven't necessarily played the best competition Throughout the season. The dolphins and the cowboys should probably be the best teams that they played so far but, as you mentioned, these next three weeks when they play against the Chiefs as well as against the well, there to be the cowboys, but they're like it's chiefs in the bills in the 49ers, so that'll tell a lot, but that would still be my number one team.

Speaker 2: 29:03

I still think that on their defense is not been that great this year, but offensively they've been good. They've been able to make these strong comebacks, even when they have given up these big leads to teams like the Commanders and when they need to get a stop. Ultimately, they've been able to most the times. Number two would be the Ravens. They had the bad loss, as we mentioned, against the Browns, but other than that they've been dominant, especially through the NFC. The mod Jackson is looks good. He's talked about With his like. I'm sorry for your fantasy teams and all that kind of stuff, because even though they'll blow out these teams and everything like that, you'll have like 12 fantasy points, but they're just able to win games. The defense is playing very well and I'm not worried about this loss to the Browns. I still think they're gonna bounce back and still be a very strong contender in the AFC.

Speaker 2: 29:46

Number three. Right behind them I would have the Chiefs. I Wanted to put the Chiefs ahead of the Ravens just because of you know History and I know that if I had to choose a game between them two and all the cards and chips were pushed to the table, I would choose bash my homes over the Marj Jackson. But I still have question marks about the Chiefs offense. Rashid Rice again has been stepping up more and more each week, but you know, travis Kelsey Can't do it all for you and even though their defense has been better and has been able to stop teams, sometimes they're not able to move the ball and they're not able to capitalize in the red zone, which is one of the main problems that they had against the Broncos, which is a game that they lost. So they would be my number three nine. Number four would be the 49ers. I understand what you're saying. When everybody's healthy.

Speaker 2: 30:27

I think the best team in the league yeah, number four, especially, you know, based off of you know, they just came off with a three game win streak. I understand that they destroyed the Jags, but I'm kind of like you. I don't think the Jags are that that great of a team. I think they're, like you know, a solid playoff team, but I don't have any expectations for them going any further. Maybe, maybe they get a win the first round. But I think that it goes to show Some of the question marks coming into the season that we had against about the 49ers. When you go on like a six-oh run, that kind of eases a lot of the concerns that people had, but then you know, refuse to forget that they're probably the most injury prone team the league and they have some of the most injury prone star players and George Kittle, who got hurt, db Samuel, who got hurt obviously him and Trent Williams are back now, but there still are question marks about them and even though Brock Purdy did turn it around against the Jags, he's been a little up and down this season. So I think I need to wait and see a couple more games, now that everybody is back for me to just be like okay, you went on this three game losing streak against some teams that I don't think are very good, and against the the Browns, who I think are solid, but and against the Vikings, like, who again I think are solid. I don't think those are great teams.

Speaker 2: 31:36

So those would be my concerns with the 49ers and, like you, I have the Lions at number five. I think that they've had a couple. They had one bad loss, which is to the Ravens, and they had the overtime loss to the Seahawks. Other than that, they've looked great, their offense looks amazing and their defense is much better than I think people thought it was going to be, and their secondary, as you mentioned, is playing better than I think a lot of people expected.

Speaker 2: 31:55

So that would be my number five, and I think that Jared Goff is probably one of the most underrated quarterbacks in the league, especially in the NFC, and he's been able to take complete control of the offense is one of the reasons why they want to continue To extend him this season. And then you have Jameer Gibbs, who's been coming on over the past three weeks when David Montgomery was out. So now that they're both healthy, you have a nice one to punch out of the backfield with Amun Ra, with Laporta, as you mentioned, so offensively. I think they're great and their defense has been pretty solid. So that would be my number five.

Speaker 1: 32:21

So my only question is like I was gonna say one last little note on on Jared Goff too is that he also has he's tied for the league's lead. That was really weird how I said that he is tied For the most drop passes by his wide receivers to with our good old buddy friend Captain Kirk cousins. So he has 20 dropped passes by his wide receivers.

Speaker 2: 32:48

So Catch a few of those here and there.

Speaker 1: 32:51

Maybe season looks a little bit different, maybe they have like another win or two, maybe not against the Ravens, but you know, maybe see ox or something like that. So True.

Speaker 2: 33:01

So with the 49ers, you think you know you have the everybody's healthy, you have the bounce back when against the Jags and you're just ready to deem them, there's number one, just because they should be on paper.

Speaker 1: 33:11

Well, I mean I, I always had them up there, I'm. I'm I never had them lower than. I don't think I ever had them lower than three or something like that, but Maybe not even lower than even after going on three. I had never wavered. I wavered a little bit.

Speaker 2: 33:32

But I mean.

Speaker 1: 33:35

Like we said, they're their main. Their main problem was injuries, and you saw what Dbo meant to that offense in terms of having the, the versatility of Having a player that can do multiple things for you, and it really limited them.

Speaker 1: 33:50

Only having Christian McCaffrey, only Christian McCaffrey and also George Gettle, but still and only I mean, well, yeah, but I mean, when your offense is is made around Like these, those core players, and you have one of your core players out, then it makes it damn near impossible. Not only that, when you have big old Trent Williams out as well, who's a Hall of Fame left tackle like that definitely Impacts your offense of flow and how you're able to get enough time to throw, because, as we know, and Brock pretty center pressure, he doesn't necessarily do all that good, but when he when he has a clean pocket, he, I think, has like the highest pasture rating in the league right now.

Speaker 2: 34:31

So Well, that's what I'm saying too, like I agree with you. But I also think that their versatility is their greatest weakness. The way that they use Dibo out of the backfield and all these screen passes and things like that. They use him as literally a borderline running back so he gets hurt a lot. Brandon IU, because a very physical player after the catch and he's been hurt a lot with his shoulder injuries. We already know how injury prone Christian McCaffrey's been and we already know how. George Kittle is the most physical tied in the league but he's also injury prone.

Speaker 2: 34:56

So, like at the beginning of the season, like that was my main reason for having the Seahawks finish, hired them into in the in the the division, also being a Homer pick, but it was just the injury pronus of that team and it didn't come to fruition in the first Okay, and it didn't come into fruition in the first six games. So everybody kind of forgot about that and I was one of the. I was in that same Play. I was like, oh my gosh, rock Perti's looking amazing. We, you have to consider him as a borderline MVP candidate at this point. And then you know the injury, bro. You know is undefeated and I don't know what it is about the 49ers, but it really likes 49ers.

Speaker 2: 35:41

So I would have those concerns and we've seen that Brock Perti is not, especially when he doesn't have his full array weapons is not as non turnover prone as we thought. So Well that. Well, I'm going to see with that anything else that you wanted to get into in the NFL.

Speaker 1: 35:59

Yeah, just real quick. I just wanted to highlight a few matchups that we had in week nine that we kind of skipped over. These are some very elite of matchups. So we had Josh jobs against Taylor Heineke. We had Daniel Jones against Aiden O'Connell Tyson Wow, I can never say his name. There we go bad. I always want to say bag, yet it's not bag. Yet.

Speaker 1: 36:23

Badget Against Derek Carr oh, derek Carr, anyways, we'll let my quarterback and no, please God, no, we'll have us against Kenny Pickett, sam Howe against Mac Jones. So we just had some elite competition going going in to week nine, right there. I think, goodness, a few of those quarterbacks are no longer, but we still do have an all-time high for the amount of quarterbacks that have played this season in terms of Due to injury or just.

Speaker 2: 37:00

Yeah, yeah, not to mention that, you know, the Eagles just absolutely destroyed the Cowboys in week nine, and Alex one is bet.

Speaker 1: 37:07

So whatever he's not over yet, it is not captured yet.

Speaker 2: 37:12

I told you. If you want to double down on it, just let me know. Why would I do that? Oh, you see you sound so confident about it, so why not?

Speaker 1: 37:18

Oh, I mean, you know, like I, I have confidence in my pick, but I, you know, I don't not gonna double down on an underdog, like I Know fair enough, so straight into call your shot, drew.

Speaker 2: 37:29

Do you have any matchups that you are fully confident in this weekend?

Speaker 1: 37:34

Or, yes, sir, I Am looking at these, these here Baltimore Ravens looking in. Yeah, man, hey, now they were on a little bit earlier. I'm calling my Thursday night shots out here. Alright, they were looking ahead for this matchup, which is why they had a letdown spot against the Browns, and I think that when you have Harbaugh going in there getting prepared for a game at home, hostile environment for the Bengals is not gonna end well for our boy, joey B. And you also have Higgins that's banged up again. You also have Hendricks on their defensive line that's that's banged up as well. He was riving in pain. I don't. I didn't see on the injury report what he, what he has going on, but from the way he was looking on the field there didn't look like it was something that he was gonna be playing on a short week. So Add all that together, give me Baltimore Ravens minus three and a half. But you know me.

Speaker 2: 38:36

I'm going money line I am playing that game.

Speaker 1: 38:38

I'm not playing. That happen to you happen actually this past week with the with the Lions. They won by three. We would have pushed on that, but instead we played the money line and ended up winning.

Speaker 2: 38:49

So yeah, and I tried to take the Seahawks for money line but you convinced me not to when to take the spread minus two to 80, whatever it was like.

Speaker 1: 38:58

That's ridiculous, but we could have done at least an alternative spread not just the six points, but add digress.

Speaker 2: 39:02

I'm not gonna lie you, that game scares me. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm. Leave that alone. That's fair enough. Fair enough here.

Speaker 1: 39:10

Let me, let me try and convince you here, mr Harris. So, so the bangles are one and 23 straight up on the road and night games over the past 25 years. Mm-hmm, does this check the box for that? I believe it is a night game. They are on the road. I Don't think they're gonna win this game. That's why I'm taking the money line. For a friend don't pay the rent. Say what.

Speaker 2: 39:37

Cuz you got the right. Exactly, I'm saying trains don't pay the rent, but they sure do tell a damn good story.

Speaker 1: 39:44

All right, along with that, the Actually I'll, I'll. I won't spare you guys, I'll tell you this anyways. So the Ravens also have a 34% passing advantage on the offensive line and a 14% running advantage on the defense, are on the offensive line as well against sincey, whereas Cincinnati has a negative for passing disadvantage when it comes to pass protection and a negative for 15 run efficiency on the offensive line as well, going against Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 2: 40:22

So I Mean into a little bit, and T Higgins has already been ruled out for the game too, so that's a big piece for loss of them. Shout out train or wind, though Okay, white boy white boy, the up-and-coming Adam Theland, you know, yep you heard it here first. Fair enough. Uh, that'll be a very entertaining game. Nice to see finally getting some good Thursday night football games after the Disgustingness that we had the week prior with the Panthers and Bears. So yeah.

Speaker 2: 40:54

Can't wait for that. My first calling shot game is going to be the Chargers over the Packers. The Chargers, wow, yeah, yeah. Chargers that were coming off of a two game win streak when they ended up losing a shootout to the Lions, so I feel that they're gonna be able to outscore the Green Bay Packers. I feel like the points on the board and the Green Bay Packers have not scored more than 20 points over the past five weeks. They've struggled to put points on the board. Their defense has been played well, so they've been able to keep teams low, but overall I think that the Chargers now as healthy as they're gonna get obviously you have my Williams still out, but as healthy as they're gonna get. They're finally including Austin Echler into the game plan a lot more over the past couple weeks and Obviously, the Justin Herbert Kim now in connection is always going to be elite. So that would be my pick Over the Green Bay Packers, who were one in four over the past five games. I.

Speaker 1: 41:44

Mean. You know that's. That's a fair enough point. I I Don't talk about games that scare me. It's asking asking Brandon's daily to cover a game on the road in in Lambo. And Also, if you're not scared yet, 81% of the bets are on the Chargers. So that is one of the most public plays of the week.

Speaker 2: 42:09

So Proceed with caution, but you know hey, you do, you want to go, you want to go money on that one. Or you know, we can go money line on this close enough, it's only, it's three points, so we can just go me money line.

Speaker 1: 42:21

I.

Speaker 2: 42:22

Honestly think that they're when Running away, because I think that the pack are, the chargers are a solid offense. I think they're just gonna be able to score points. And you know, after the first two weeks of the NFL season, jordan Love looks like trash.

Speaker 1: 42:37

So one thing that might be interesting for that game is the the line. I just thought about this now the Chargers first quarter Because, or even first half, because the Packers are notoriously bad at Scoring or doing anything productive on offense in the first half or first quarter. But I mean Interesting. We'll see how that plays out there for you. Mr Harris, my next pig talk about a public play. I I'm gonna pick the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 2: 43:16

So the lion is really open.

Speaker 1: 43:20

Now say the line initially opened up as as the Lions being a gigantic favorite against the Bears at 10-point favorite, and then that since then lines been bet down which normally you don't want to bet against line movement. It's not a winning Strategy this just fields returning.

Speaker 1: 43:39

Exactly. And so, that being said, with Justin Fields returning, I like, if it's, if it's like a Like with Kyler Murray and ACL or whatever, you've had all this time to recover and re Build up your strength and everything like that I'm not concerned about. I'm not concerned about Kyler Murray when he came. When he came back because he came back in a reasonable amount of time, unlike what Aaron Rogers is trying to do come back in an unreasonable amount of time. Anyways, when you have somebody that's coming off of a thumb injury, that's gonna be a little bit different, especially if it's your throwing hand, like one swipe at the ball, his strength might not be all the way back up to where it needs to be. And also, why are they trying to Push him to come back so soon, even though he was technically, medically, cleared to play last week? So they are kind of waiting a little bit. I Don't think that they're really playing for anything right now, so they just let him heal even more. But each their own.

Speaker 1: 44:40

I'm picking the Lions, it's. It's another one of those games I talked about last week where my model, if it's the game Margin, is between four and five in terms of amount of value that I have on a game then it is been in the Goldilocks zone about 80 to 85 percent is the amount that it's hit over the past three years for me, and that one of those games last week was the Dallas Cowboys. And yeah, I have. No, I have no choice and I'm legally obligated to abide by the rules of the model, especially when it's in between that range. So give me the Detroit Lions to beat Chicago Bears.

Speaker 2: 45:27

Like that pick, though, to my second pick to. Even with Justin Fields returning, you know it still could be some rest incorporating them. Not sure how healthy he's actually going to look, and I get. I think the Lions have looked great on offense. We'll see how Aiden had just, and if he gives him any problems in the backfield or not. My, if I'm not gonna choose that one, my second I'm just gonna do it. I don't care. Okay, see y'all to Rams, we're gonna get our get back. That's why I don't care.

Speaker 2: 45:51

I don't care if it's, I don't care if it's away. Matthew Stafford practice in full today, so supposedly his thumb is pretty healed. So Him and Cooper Cup and Pukin to Kura all have a battling through little injuries and things like that. But they're all expected to play. But I don't care. I think we're gonna get our get back and you know it's just gonna be a Homer pick. So I we eventually have to get this red something figured out. Man, it's been, it's been ridiculous and end up, you know, barely squeaking out these wins against the commanders and against the Browns, even against the Cardinals, things of that nature. So I think that eventually we have to.

Speaker 2: 46:28

We have to get right, and I think this is a perfect opportunity going into a game so we can go into a little to lead. So our 2-0 Win streak with our commanders last week and then be the Rams this week, before we have to go and go through this gauntlet against the 49ers, cowboys and 49ers again and then the Eagles. So Not looking forward to the next month. So you may or may not hear me talking about the Seahawks very often. I'm coming up here soon, so this may be my last chance. It's not why you can't, yep, I.

Speaker 1: 46:59

Guess man I like. My only thing is why? Why is the line only one when we know how bad the, how bad the Rams have been? We know?

Speaker 2: 47:13

Be this. Well and they're exactly.

Speaker 1: 47:17

Exactly and also it should be like, if you're thinking about it logistically, I think the Seahawks should be a little bit more of a favorite if they're supposed to be this playoff contender and stuff, and the Rams are going nowhere fast. I that's scary.

Speaker 1: 47:36

Um 68% of the bets are on the Seahawks right now and only 39% of the handle, which is making it a very heavy Bet against the public play right there and Rams man, I was going to take around like it's not just like, oh well, it's, you know that's something to do is that the line has moved two points since the, since they opened up the, the, the line there and In which direction? Going towards the Rams. So it opened up a Seahawks minus three, and now it's down to Seahawks minus one. And if there's 68% of the bets on the Seahawks, but the line is moving towards the Rams. I'm like oh.

Speaker 2: 48:28

Seahawks.

Speaker 1: 48:33

I just traded for Puka Nakua too, and one of my other leagues Did you really.

Speaker 2: 48:37

What did you do for?

Speaker 1: 48:38

them. I Traded a bag of fun digs. No, I traded Stefan digs for for Puka and Derek Henry.

Speaker 2: 48:51

Interesting for them playoff matchups.

Speaker 1: 48:53

I don't want to have to rely on Deontay Foreman for any kind of anything, especially not success on my offense, even though he's given me great production down over the past few weeks.

Speaker 1: 49:04

Yeah, I don't rely on on them getting touchdowns. So I got Derek Henry and their playoff schedule, or even their just their upcoming schedule is looking mighty fine, and I do believe that they Now they being the Titans are gonna have some plus matchups in terms of they're gonna be ahead in the game and they'll be able to run the ball the way they like to.

Speaker 2: 49:24

So Fair enough. Fair enough Anything else that you wanted to get into NFL? Wise, before we hop into the NBA. I.

Speaker 1: 49:34

Am so tempted by the Broncos again this week.

Speaker 2: 49:38

Who do they play again? Yeah, they play the fight. Hey man, I'll bet the Vikings, I'll bet you. We don't even do a people that it could just, it could just be us, because in Joshua Dobbs we trust and we get in J Jetta's back this week probably, yep. As you come back this week that's the news on the street, oh man, I Can't do it.

Speaker 2: 50:05

I can't get there, I but in fairness to the Broncos, they have looked much improved over the past few weeks and you know things are actually looking a lot better. Russell Wilson's looking much more like his old self and, in fairness, like throughout the whole season he's actually played Very well. Like underrated, I guess you could say they're actually getting the run game going with Javante Williams. I don't know what it is about Coral and sudden, but he's been a red zone machine this year and he's like eight touchdowns. I think he's tied for the record among receivers currently.

Speaker 1: 50:34

So Broncos looking up and the defense is actually looks much improved compared to the first few games this season hmm, last one that I want to give out is gonna be the Dolphins coming off the buy playing against the Raiders. Now another massive spread here minus 13 and a half. Never seen a grown man cry Like after this game. I, I think that they're gonna, you know, come back down from the heavens of people just blowing, smoke up their stuff and like I don't understand how they have. They have five wins. How?

Speaker 2: 51:17

do they have five wins?

Speaker 1: 51:18

Yes, Well like it is so gross, especially the. The Dolphins have six wins. Like Are those? Are those comparable teams, alex?

Speaker 2: 51:31

I mean they beat the Jets, the Giants, yeah, the Packers, the Patriots and the Broncos.

Speaker 1: 51:39

My point exactly dolphins by a million, lock it up.

Speaker 2: 51:45

Man, these are the new and improved Raiders. This ain't you know? Okay, your grandpa's Raiders. I actually know these.

Speaker 1: 51:54

These aren't your older brothers, Raiders.

Speaker 2: 51:55

Okay, these are the new improved Raiders. Okay, yes, fair enough, I I'm not gonna take it, but I'm not gonna be surprised.

Speaker 1: 52:06

The Dolphin stop you should take the. You should take the the Raiders I.

Speaker 2: 52:14

Want to, but I'm not going to you in. You should take the Broncos.

Speaker 1: 52:20

I'm good, I'll pass your favorites.

Speaker 2: 52:24

So what do you mean? So no, you're four or five and your favorite against a six and four team. That's like a five game winning streak.

Speaker 1: 52:32

Mm-hmm, good One. One question for you Are you doing anything with this Steelers Browns game, with the total being at 33?

Speaker 2: 52:41

I Don't understand that. That's so bad. 33 16. The Browns have been able to put points on the board Even when it's been to Sean Watson, when it's been PJ Walker or when it's been the whatever the other quarterbacks named DCR. Whatever, his name is DTR yeah, dtr, that's bad. No thank you no, anything.

Speaker 1: 53:11

No, you probably juice like, yeah, I'm just gonna Alternative spread 30 points, screw it, okay, no like when it comes to the, when it comes to the Steelers, I if if to Sean Watson wasn't a hurt, I might have gone with them. But I don't like the Steelers. Make no sense. They have a negative point, not point differential. I'd be impossible. They haven't had negative actually.

Speaker 2: 53:36

Do this, it's a dude, they do actually.

Speaker 1: 53:38

Yeah, they do have a negative point differential. They have six wins, they have a negative yardage differential as well, and it just. It's so annoying like I, I Don't know, I don't, I don't even know, I don't even know anymore. Alex, I, I want to bet against them. It just makes no sense. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 54:07

Like if I would have told you, like coming into the season, that ten weeks into the season, that the Pittsburgh Steelers and Cleveland rounds would both be six and three and the Buffalo bills be five and five outside the playoffs.

Speaker 1: 54:17

Like I think you had said that you need to get drug tested. If you told me that, yeah, all that math, you know. No, exactly one of my patients coming in.

Speaker 2: 54:27

That's crazy. They're both six and three. That is. That is insane. And Cleveland still the favorite with the Sean Watson out. Yeah, that'll make no sense.

Speaker 1: 54:36

Exactly I. I'm so tempted. They're just hanging out there for me. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it, I'm not doing it. Nope, we're sticking with our plays that we have already question.

Speaker 2: 54:49

Just random question, listen, yeah if your life depended on it. You know, boy, the offensive team to score one touchdown. What you took this deal is offense or the Jets offense.

Speaker 1: 55:00

Oh, where am I starting at?

Speaker 2: 55:06

Opposing 20, so you need a full ADR drive.

Speaker 1: 55:10

And a touchdown. The Steelers or the Browns? You said, steelers are the Jets oh, the Jets oh.

Speaker 2: 55:21

Okay, oh.

Speaker 1: 55:22

God, I gotta go with Kenny pick it. I I've seen their offense actually look decent enough. This I've only seen like chunk plays out of a couple slant touchdowns. I like Don't get me wrong like Matt Canada's or whatever his name is, canada's Scheme is one of the worst I've seen. The league Canada guy Exactly, but at the same time they have a lot of talent around them.

Speaker 1: 55:54

That can actually get up the slack, yeah, but their quarterback is just. It is literally just the armpit of New York. Number two pick man, you could have been number one overall pick and I'd still did. I just God, I don't know. Like I said, next time you hear me saying anything good about the Jets, slap me across the face. I Might, I'm not gonna do that. I was gonna bet against them out of spite, but that's the losing method, but it is tempting. Anyways, before I go down too many rabbit holes there, I think that we'll just call it good for now, that'll wrap it up for the NFL.

Speaker 1: 56:35

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Speaker 2: 56:52

We'll see you next Wednesday.

Speaker 1: 56:55

Peace, you, you.