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NFL Injury Updates, Player Breakdowns, and Strategic Analysis

December 18, 2023 Alix Harris & Drew Moore
NFL Injury Updates, Player Breakdowns, and Strategic Analysis
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NFL Injury Updates, Player Breakdowns, and Strategic Analysis
Dec 18, 2023
Alix Harris & Drew Moore

WE ARE BACK! In this episode we discuss recent NFL news, including the firing of the Chargers' head coach and GM. We also speculate on Bill Belichick's future with the Patriots. Then preview Monday Night Football and analyze the Buffalo Bills' playoff chances. We conclude with a debate on our Top 5 NFL rankings. 

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WE ARE BACK! In this episode we discuss recent NFL news, including the firing of the Chargers' head coach and GM. We also speculate on Bill Belichick's future with the Patriots. Then preview Monday Night Football and analyze the Buffalo Bills' playoff chances. We conclude with a debate on our Top 5 NFL rankings. 

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Betting is not without risk. Please gamble responsibly.

The National Problem Gambling Helpline (1-800-522-4700) is available 24/7 and is 100% confidential. This hotline connects callers to local health and government organizations that can assist with their gambling addiction.

Alix Harris (00:01.482)
Thank you for listening. This is the Call You Shot podcast with your host, Alex Harris and Drew Moore. Before we get started, we wanted to apologize. It's been, I think, what? Drew, about three weeks since our last episode. Okay. Yeah. I didn't get married, but I did propose. Lots been going on. Drew and I both been working, been finishing my school. So I finished my master's program, ended up getting engaged, proposed.

Drew Moore (00:12.289)
It's out. It's really Alex's fault. He decided he wanted to go out and get married. Yeah, you're proposing to people and stuff. Well,

Alix Harris (00:28.882)
Drew, I know you've been super busy too. So again, we do apologize, but we do appreciate your guys's patience. And you guys watching this here today. So today's episode, we're going to get into the NFL. Obviously we can't cover everything that's happened in the past three weeks, but we are going to talk about some of the major recent news, as well as give our top five power rankings for teams that we do have, which we also feel is going to cover a good amount of the majority of things that has happened over the past couple of weeks.

After that, we're gonna get into the NBA some of the top teams as late some of the young teams that have been cooking like The Timberwolves and Thunder as well as the playing tournament as you know who won that drew. I am in and Lastly mr. Draymond green and the Warriors. So yeah, it'll be fun episode. So major news want to get started. We did have confirmation that Chargers head coach Brandon Staley and the GM Tom Tolesco ended up getting fired. They got destroyed by the Raiders

I think they ended up losing by 40 or something like that. And basically the right was on the wall. It's been a long time coming. A lot of people have been wanting to stay to get out of there for a long time, especially after the, what, 24, 27 blow loss that they had against the Jaguars in the playoffs. And they gave up that 24 point lead. So what are your thoughts on that, Drew?

Drew Moore (01:43.114)
Yeah, I mean, it we've been talking about this from like the beginning of the season saying that like this is the man's got to go. But it was one of those things to where like the owners, it's not really in there. It's not really their M.O. to do that midseason. So that was one of the reasons why they hadn't done it. But at the same time, you know, it the writing, like we said, the writing was on the wall. And over the past.

three years or so since hiring Brandon Staley, the Chargers ranked 27th only are only one spot ahead of them are the Seahawks just wanted to point that out, but the Chargers ranked 27th in EPA per play Which is basically just the expected points on every play that has happened and

Alix Harris (02:24.528)
unnecessary point.

Drew Moore (02:39.658)
He's supposed to be a defensive guy, right? Right. I thought he was he's coming in supposed to revamp the defense. It's not like he didn't have a wealth of help over there, too. He had a bunch of great players on the defensive end to help him out. Obviously, you look a lot better when you're with the Rams and you win a Super Bowl and you have, you know, Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey and company like it. It kind of helps Yvonne Miller. Like.

Alix Harris (03:05.198)
Von Miller.

Drew Moore (03:09.33)
Make sure to have a lot easier and it's really easy to look good when you have those players. But at the same time, you know, it's one of those things to where he's he was basically wasting Jalen Hurts, Justin Herbert's career by having this kind of a defense. And it's kind of going to be interesting to see, was it actually the coach or was it maybe maybe.

Alix Harris (03:12.669)
Mm.

Drew Moore (03:37.91)
Justin Herbert just actually isn't as up in that tier like we've always put him into. He makes amazing throws, don't get me wrong, and everything like that. He's a gunslinger, but maybe he's more on the Brett Favre side of things as opposed to like the Joe Montana, Patrick Mahomes, those kind of players and stuff like that. Well, maybe not Patrick Mahomes this year, but in recent years.

Alix Harris (04:02.742)
Yeah, I think he's like a less big, slightly less mobile Josh Allen, which obviously we've talked a lot about Josh Allen over the past season and things of that nature. But the charges have been through a lot when it comes to Salie and it's not necessarily, I don't know, I want to say it's all his fault. They've had a lot of unfortunate situations. Herbert's got hurt for the past two seasons now. He and Allen's been injury prone. Mike Williams has been injury prone, has missed a lot of this season as well. But I mean-

As you mentioned, I think he did kind of waste. I don't want to say he wasted Justin Herbert's, you know, career or anything like that, because obviously Justin Herbert's still very young, but like the pieces in the core that they had around him with Kenan Allen, who's now had a good, who's had a good season so far, but is now going to be like 32, 33. Mike Williams is already injury prone and now Austin Eckler seems like he's lost a step too. So like, where do they go from there? Because like now I do feel that they're

I don't it's kind of crazy to say like the Super Bowl window slows but like every season over the past two or three years Like they open up like oh, this is we've talked about it Like this is the team that made dethrone the chiefs and things like that just because they have All of the weapons for such a high-powered offense and then they draft quentin williams who's basically supposed to are not quentin williams What was the wide receiver that they drafted? quentin johnson, um who's basically like, you know, mike williams 2.0 and they're just like, you know We're not gonna throw to you like I don't even understand even when mike williams got hurt. He still didn't get um

Drew Moore (05:13.41)
Quinn Johnson. Yeah.

Drew Moore (05:19.502)
Hmm.

Alix Harris (05:23.198)
many targets and things of that nature and then you have all of these good rookies with Pukinokua with say Flowers, with Rishi Rice and things of that nature and you know he doesn't really get much looks at all so the Chargers are kind of are in disarray and you kind of get stomped by the Raiders who have had trouble scoring all season and you lose to them by 40. I mean there's not really much you can say about that.

Drew Moore (05:42.638)
Yeah, like. And I think it was Al Michaels, too. He was talking about, like, you know, Peewee football or Pop Warner football or whatever. If they're up by this much, they usually just call Mercy rule and they just end the game. Forty two, nothing at halftime and stuff. But yeah, I mean, Dan, 42, nothing at halftime to a team that only scored three points. Actually, my bad didn't score any points last week.

Alix Harris (05:55.779)
Mm-hmm.

Drew Moore (06:11.65)
Like and on top of that to most of the telusco, I forgot the name, Teluski, Telusco, I don't know. Anyways, he's gone trash anyways, because the yeah, Tom Telusco, that's what it is. The players that he's drafted, I believe they have the one of the lowest percentages of returning players after drafting them and as well as players that have.

Alix Harris (06:21.642)
Yeah, the GM Tom Tolesco.

Drew Moore (06:39.902)
stayed in the league too after drafting them as well. So, and in terms of like second day draft players and stuff, obviously like, you know, first, first day draft players, like they're going to be more likely to stay in the NFL than second day, but don't need to go to that rabbit hole. But yeah, he's also not the best GM. And now they're also, they're pretty much stuck because they have a terrible financial situation because they've overpaid for.

Alix Harris (06:56.111)
Mm.

Drew Moore (07:10.202)
All of these elite players that they haven't been able to do anything with. And basically they have no choice but to hope that somebody maybe wants Justin Herbert or they can bring in a Bill Belichick to coach and maybe he can turn around the outlook of what they have left in the team. But you just kind of saw the team give up.

Alix Harris (07:14.65)
correct.

Drew Moore (07:39.342)
Once they once the Raiders got up by like 14, nothing. They were like, you know what? If this I'm done and players just quit on the field. So I don't blame me there.

Alix Harris (07:54.386)
Honestly, honestly, it really looked very bad. It looked terrible. And obviously Justin Herbert was hurt. So obviously like he didn't play, but like even this whole season, the offense has kind of looked up and down early in the season. They were able to score and get points up, but you know, the defense wasn't able to stop any teams. You know, we have like a shootout just to start the season in week one against the Dolphins 35 to 38, and you're not able to get a stop. And sometimes the offense actually has looked very stagnant. It hasn't looked that great too. As we mentioned, like Austin Eckler.

was battling through the high ankle sprain. So he missed a lot of time when he came back. He still doesn't look like his full self. We talked about that. We didn't think that was necessarily like the injury lingering. Cause we talked about like, he's very good at, you know, understanding his body, not coming back until he's fully healthy. So it honestly looked like he looked older. And they even talked about wanting to see what they had with the other options at running back because, you know, he was in a contract dispute, it's off season. He wanted a bag. He wanted to, a multi-year deal.

And they basically wanted a franchise tag him and they ultimately ended up settling on a one year deal, which was a little higher than the franchise tag. I don't see them restyling him, um, this off season. So where do they go from there? And you know, Kellan Moore, who was the offensive coordinator for the Cowboys comes over and people are like, Oh wow, they're going to really open up this offense, Justin Herbert has, you know, just as much, obviously if not more on time arm talent than Dak Prescott with all the weapons, like it's going to basically completely open up to this offense and

Drew Moore (08:57.91)
Mm-mm.

Alix Harris (09:14.902)
Right now, I think they're 18th in offense. So, and that's just been this whole season, not just last week. So it's going to be very interesting in where the direction that they decide to go. If they're going to, you know, still try to stick with it and, you know, play around Justin Herbert, or as you mentioned, maybe try to get a trade. That kind of goes into something else that I wanted to get into that you had mentioned that I forgot about Bill Belichick in the Patriots. Obviously the Patriots have not.

Drew Moore (09:18.081)
Mm-hmm.

Alix Harris (09:38.082)
been good this season, obviously weren't good last year. The first season with Mac Jones, first season without Tom Brady ended up having a pretty formidable season. They squeaked into the playoffs, but since then it's all been downhill and this year has been terrible. And basically they've said that it's already writing is on the wall that Bill Belichick will be basically fired at the end of the season, which was very interesting because the Patriots are, you know, Bill Belichick's had such a long standing with the Patriots and they usually pretty...

quiet or secure with that information and things of that nature. So like the fact that they already went public and said that, I don't know how true it is, but apparently it's been like confirmed by a very credible source. So what are your thoughts on that? Do you really think it's time to move on from bill Belichick or do you, you know, I don't really know what you want him to do, but, because he's also partly been the GM and things that are, uh, in building the roster. Um, so, I mean, I guess that is partly on him too, but, uh, do you really think that peace should be fired? And do you think, where do you think you should go after that?

Drew Moore (10:34.77)
I mean, yeah, because you're really seeing the Tom Brady effect and like, who was it? Was it really him? Was it Tom Brady? Just like was it was it Michael Jordan or was it almost said Phil Knight? I kind of think of. Okay. Oh, Jackson. There we go. Jackson. There we go. Yeah. Okay. I don't know about all that.

Alix Harris (10:52.226)
It was Michael Jordan.

Alix Harris (10:56.59)
Phil Jackson's a great coach, all-time coach. It was Michael Jordan.

Drew Moore (11:05.654)
Well, I'm so tempted. I'm so tempted. But okay, I won't be really ridiculous. But yeah, so I do think that Bill Belichick, like, it's time for sleepy Bill to go night night. And whether or not whether or not he retires or he goes and coaches somewhere and tries to, you know, get the record for most wins. If he does that, he better go to a

a competitive team because you're selling going to do it. Any of these other teams are here. Yeah. Exactly. And it was it was kind of interesting, too, because there was talks about like when they had that loss in Lund or Germany, they were like, are they just going to leave them at the tarmac? Just like, you know, find your own plane home kind of thing. But, you know, they

Alix Harris (11:36.13)
I'm done.

It's a 3-11 after today's loss to the Chiefs.

Drew Moore (12:03.138)
They stuck with them and I think I think that's the right thing to do, not do them dirty or anything like that, because ultimately they wouldn't be in the situation where they were without him. Um, like as much as it was, you know, Tom Brady and stuff too, it also was, um, his elite coaching on offense and also on defense too. Um, and. I believe that I believe that if he does go to another team, he'll probably just only have the.

the head coaching job or maybe just a role as a defensive coordinator if he wants to only do that. Yeah, because I don't know like. Yeah, it his track record as well as a GM isn't the best. I mean, you can kind of see that the players that they drafted while Tom Brady was there and stuff and all the help that he was able to get. Exactly. So it was basically like.

Alix Harris (12:40.474)
I don't think he wants to be DC. I think it's head culture, nothing.

Alix Harris (12:54.946)
D3 wide receiver Wichita State. Give it to me.

Drew Moore (13:01.826)
like build a bear out there with the players that they're. Exactly so, I mean, other than obviously Randy Moss, who they didn't draft, they, you know, they acquired him and. Yeah, other than that, you know, doesn't really have a great track record of, of building a team, but he sure as hell can coach as for damn sure. So I think that he'll, he'll fit right, right in nicely with the chargers. It's nice, warm.

Alix Harris (13:03.578)
or 840, give them to me.

Alix Harris (13:12.915)
the only player that they went all in on in free agency.

Drew Moore (13:30.678)
Great place to retire.

Alix Harris (13:35.587)
Yeah, I don't I don't know I mean like no man like I understand where into the Saints I mean that might be actually I think I could understand that like a little bit more I couldn't honestly see him go into the charger I just I don't know how to just feels that just seems weird, but I mean both teams are in the NFC So I definitely agree with you. I understand

Drew Moore (13:40.966)
Actually, you know what? You know what? Send them to the Saints. Send them to the Saints. Please.

Alix Harris (13:59.458)
uh, needing to move on from Bill Belichick because obviously, uh, the owner, Robert Kraft had to make a decision when it came to the Tom Brady situation. There's been, you know, reports have come out and Tom Brady of the interviews and things like that. It kind of seemed like it was when in 2020 in the off season, it was like, it's like, it's Bill or me. And ultimately they kind of went with Bill Belichick. Um, and as you mentioned, we're kind of seeing the reality of, you know, Tom Brady, uh, was probably the majority of that.

Super Bowl run dynasty era. Obviously the Patriots had great defenses during that time. So I'm not trying to like discredit Bill Belichick or anything like that or say that he's not a great coach. He is an all time great coach. But the reality is that he has not been able to put together any wins, put together a good team at all. Like it seems like in the off season, like what you're going after Juju and Hunter Henry. And like that's what you're going to build your team around. I don't understand it. And obviously Mac Jones had a good

Drew Moore (14:51.479)
Yep.

Alix Harris (14:59.373)
I think he made a Pro Bowl, which is kind of weird. I don't understand how the Pro Bowl and all this kind of stuff works.

Drew Moore (15:02.378)
It was it was it was crazy too because I had I had a bet on Mack Jones to win rookie of the year and he was basically he was like minus 500 at one point in time to win to win the award. And then all of a sudden he just fell off a cliff and just gave it away. And I was like, hmm, I hate you now. And so ever since then.

I've never liked the guy. He also is just like not the best person in the world either. He's really easy not to like. And this isn't going to be like a, you know, I hate Jones rant, but, you know, it sure is. Let me step off this real quick if I go too far.

Alix Harris (15:43.138)
Get my soapbox real quick.

Alix Harris (15:49.93)
I definitely think that they are going to look for a quarterback in this draft. I don't know what the situation completely was with Caleb Williams because he's been non-committal about whether he's going to go into the draft or go back to USC. I'm not exactly sure what's going on. I'm not exactly sure what other options you would have at quarterback, but Mac Jones and Bailey Zappi are not the options. It was weird too because I was watching some shows and they were saying that it was just an unfortunate situation for Mac Jones. A lot of people, or some people I guess, still say that Mac Jones is actually, you know,

a good amount of talent. And if he actually would have been drafted by the 49ers, who they went all in on Trey Lance just because of the mobility and the upside of him as opposed to Mac Jones, who was originally their first option, basically he'd be doing what Brock Brady's doing. And I do not agree with that at all. Mac Jones has not been a game manager. He's not been able to limit his turnovers. He's not mobile. He does not make good decisions. He does not make quick decisions. So I mean.

I don't understand that take at all, but I've heard that a lot.

Drew Moore (16:50.522)
So out of the 41 qualified quarterbacks that have played this season, that have played 20% of 598 snaps, Mack Jones, take a guess on where he ranks out of 41 qualified quarterbacks.

Alix Harris (17:09.046)
I'm gonna be nice and I'm gonna give him a 39.

Drew Moore (17:14.222)
not bad he's actually 36 so um he he's above uh tyson okay but still like

Alix Harris (17:16.446)
Okay. What he's been thrown to like.

Alix Harris (17:23.97)
He honestly probably has one of, if not the worst, ride receiver room in the league.

Drew Moore (17:29.502)
OK, I hear you and everything, but the way that PFF grades go, it doesn't grade you based on the players that you're throwing to and stuff like that. It grades you based on the types of throws that you're making, how difficult those throws are and the accuracy and placement of those throws to. My guy, my guy is only above Tyson, Beijing, Dorian, Thompson, Robinson, Bryce Young.

Alix Harris (17:34.499)
Yeah.

Alix Harris (17:48.154)
Fair enough.

Alix Harris (17:57.022)
at ADTR.

Drew Moore (17:59.85)
uh, miss Trubisky and PJ Walker. So I, last time I checked, none of those are starting quarterbacks. Actually, those are all third street quarterbacks and bright. I mean, for Bryce young to be down there too, at 39, that's, that just tells you everything.

Alix Harris (18:09.515)
Nah.

Alix Harris (18:17.574)
is where they've all started this i believe all of those quarterbacks have started a game this season and i think they all have still around the same amount of wins is uh... it's not the winds which is very unfortunate so that is the situation with the patriots will have to see when it comes to that uh... lastly the only thing unless you had anything else i want to do is and just get it over with and preview this little game that we got tomorrow for monday night football not happy about it

Drew Moore (18:29.403)
Mm.

Drew Moore (18:43.062)
Well, actually, one thing, one thing, you got your boy A-Rod coming in hot.

Alix Harris (18:49.066)
All right, right. A.M. Rogers has been clear to practice at this point in time and is now has a decent chance.

Drew Moore (18:58.152)
I thought it was saying that he's cleared to play next week.

Alix Harris (19:01.874)
Oh, no, you're right. They're saying that, yeah, I think they said that he's potentially clear to play this next week. And, you know, it's a possibility. I think a couple of weeks ago they were talking about, you know, there's a good chance Aaron Rodgers would be healthy enough to play, but the Jets are terrible. So, you know, we're just not going to take that risk. I don't know exactly what happened. They were just even more terrible than that. And they're like, you know what? I don't want to see this no more. I don't know where Abbasal is like, you know, we need to give something for the fans. And now it seems like it's actually a good possibility that Aaron Rodgers is going to take the field for the Jets this season,

not only is miraculous from a health standpoint and a recovery standpoint, I do not understand it because like, I don't know, if you want them to be your future, you got them for a two year contract, why on earth would you do this? We've talked about it a lot, but again, what are your thoughts?

Drew Moore (19:47.598)
Mm hmm. Yeah, I mean, I've said it once. I'll say it again. Like the tissue is not healed. The injury is not healed. There's no point of coming back and playing with this injury, especially with the implications that it can have with him being 40 years old. And also, OK, and OK, OK. The ashwagandha and all the other stuff that he's.

Alix Harris (20:05.142)
Don't matter. He's healed. Ha. Jets Aaron Rodgers intercepts pass while filling in a scout linebacker in practice.

Drew Moore (20:16.838)
Bro, like I told you before we came on here, you know, you got to take into consideration the quarterbacks that we're throwing the ball to him when he intercepted that. OK, anyways, not only that, the Jets offensive line is currently ranked third to last in the NFL when it comes to pass blocking. So he's going to be running for his life out there. Not real good option to be running out all over the place.

Alix Harris (20:22.954)
Out here looking like Luke Keighley, man.

Drew Moore (20:44.85)
or I guess I should say running for your life after having an Achilles rupture. So all I'm going to say is good luck, sir. Hope you do well. You had a great career. It might be over at this point, but, you know, I hope to see you out there slinging that ball around uplifting the fans of New York. J.E.T.S. Jets, Jets.

Alix Harris (21:07.631)
And we are filming this episode on Sunday night so all the Sunday games have already happened. The Jets lost to the Dolphins 30-0. And the Dolphins were playing without Tyree Kale. So yeah.

Drew Moore (21:23.67)
Oh, they're also they've also been eliminated from the playoffs, too, so not sure why.

Alix Harris (21:27.186)
And they also have been eliminated from the.

Drew Moore (21:31.377)
Mm-hmm.

Alix Harris (21:33.002)
I don't even know what the, I didn't even look at the, I just saw the score, but I didn't even wanna look at the stats, but like, I'm curious on like what the, so Zach Wilson, four of 11 for 26 yards, Trevor Simeon, 14 of 26 for 100 yards, and they had 23 yards of rushing. So if any of you guys are good at math in total, that is 150 yards of offense. So don't blame them.

Drew Moore (22:00.404)
Did you see the thing where when they had Zach Wilson come back, they were like, the plan was always for him to not start. And so he just needed to center himself and now he's centered. And people were like, that sounds like he went on some kind of retreat with Aaron Rodgers and they smoked some new shit.

Alix Harris (22:12.887)
Mhm.

Alix Harris (22:22.462)
And there were reports and stuff because he basically got benched and not only did they bench him, they said, you're not even the backup, you're just you're the third stringer now. And then two games later, they're like, you know what? It's not better. Like, it's just as bad. So we're happy to play again. And he was he wasn't too happy or accepting of that. So I don't know what the Jets are going to do again. Hopefully Aaron Rodgers comes back because I do think that the Jets have good weapons offensively and their defense has proven at times that they are.

Drew Moore (22:25.866)
Mm-hmm.

Drew Moore (22:29.717)
Mm.

Alix Harris (22:49.254)
They're not some legendary defense like they're talking about in the preseason, which many people assumed already. But I think that they can be a contender. I think that they can be a playoff team with Aaron Rodgers, with Breeze Hall, with Garrett Wilson, as long as they need to figure something out with that offensive line. But that's pretty much it. So that's the way to see. Okay, anything else that you want to get into before we preview this great Monday night football game that we got going on here?

Drew Moore (23:16.427)
No, I think that's it. Oh, just one quick side note

Drew Moore (23:24.834)
So when we were talking about the bills and everything, oh, bills suck, bills this, bills that, da da, Drew, you're so dumb, we're talking about the bills, trash and everything. You pick and choose the spots and you'll be successful. Okay. I'm not saying, I'm not, hold on. I'm not saying that the bills are like some, well, statistically speaking, like I've been saying this the whole year, is that they're, based on the math and the stats,

Alix Harris (23:39.247)
First of all,

Drew Moore (23:54.27)
And analytics are telling me that they are a good offense and the offense was never broken. It was just poorly timed turnovers. And Josh Allen typically was the one that was having those. However, he was he was he was also the one that was giving them the best possible chance to win and putting them in the situation to win. And their defense was also the one not giving them the best opportunity to win because of all the injuries that they've had.

Alix Harris (24:06.775)
No!

Drew Moore (24:23.97)
However, they've allowed Josh Allen to start running again, which he hadn't been doing the first however many weeks before they fired the OC. And ever since firing the OC, they've gone back to allowing Josh to run. And so that's been able to allow them to go back to the kind of offense that they've been running the past few years. And we're seeing that now. They're starting to win games more, and their defense is getting as healthy as

as it's going to be, which is good for them going in to potentially the playoffs. So, yeah, I rest my case, your honor.

Alix Harris (25:02.934)
I don't think that there was ever a time where I said that the Bills suck. I said that they are volatile, meaning that they can beat an elite team like the Chiefs or the Cowboys one week and lose to bad teams like the Patriots or the Bengals. Well, not the Bengals, I guess aren't bad, but lose to bad teams the next. And they went on a very negative tear midway through the season and...

That was before we went on our little three week hiatus and I didn't hear you saying anything. You're like, yeah, I'm done with the Bills, man. And I quote, I'm pretty sure you said, I'm done with the Bills because their chance to make the playoffs was minuscule because Josh Allen was inconsistent. And we keep talking about, you know, we understand the defense had injuries and they were hurt. They were still holding teams to below under 23 points. So like, it was just the fact that the Bills couldn't score or at least not that much because Josh Allen kept turning the ball over. And...

Drew Moore (25:37.038)
Okay.

Alix Harris (25:56.158)
They've started to figure it out more. I think one of the big notes as well was obviously, you know, we don't want nobody to get hurt, but Dawson Knox got injured and basically Dalton Kincaid was able to fill in as the number one go to tight end. So you had additional options other than Stefan Diggs and Gabriel Davis. You had a very versatile tight end who they've been using. He didn't have you get any receptions actually in this game, which was very surprising, but overall these men used a lot recently and the bills have got their stuff together. They've had now wins against the Eagles.

or no, they had a very close shootout. Yeah, they had the Eagles 34 to 37 and over time they ended up losing that game, but very close. They played them very tough. And then they beat the Chiefs. And which was, I don't know about that. Some of them calls. I'm just, I'm just saying I, I'm just saying the, the Chiefs have been getting the short end of the stick on some of the, on this whistle. I'm just saying. And they beat, they just dominated the Cowboys who if I'm not mistaken is one of your teams. But like I said,

Drew Moore (26:25.783)
Nice videos.

Drew Moore (26:37.889)
Yeah.

Alix Harris (26:52.986)
They are very, very volatile. But again, they have the capability and the ability to be a very good team. And their playoff window has been open for the past five years. Obviously, Stefan Diggs got frustrated as he does every single year. But again, they're starting to figure things out. And now they're eight and five, but they're eight and five. And they're still out of the playoffs because teams like the Colts and Garnu Minshew have just as good of a record as them. And they have ultimately a tiebreaker. So.

You know, that's what happens. So now it's going to be, it's, you know, I don't know if they'll be able to squeak in the playoffs or not. They should because they played the Chargers and the Patriots in the next two games. And then they have a tough one against the Dolphins, which I think is going to be the deciding factor on whether they make the playoffs or not. They're going to have to basically hope for a Colts or Browns to continue to lose, which I don't think is, you know, that big of an ask, but I think the Bills are a very dangerous team and they seem to be clicking at the right time. So.

and now that you've jumped back on your bandwagon, what more do you have to say?

Drew Moore (27:55.106)
Nah, I mean, you know, just saying that.

Alix Harris (27:58.622)
I'm done with the bills." And I quote.

Drew Moore (28:03.047)
I might have said that. Okay, I might have said that. But that was that was because I had that was before those before they started changing their offensive scheme and allowing Josh Allen to run again. And also, like you can just tell that there are different offense out there. They're they're not fighting with each other anymore. Obviously winning heals all wounds. But at the same time, Josh Allen is not.

Alix Harris (28:04.334)
Bye.

Alix Harris (28:08.814)
That was before they started playing well.

Drew Moore (28:31.038)
losing in the games anymore. He's taking care of the ball better than what he than what he was, which is, you know, pretty low bar in general. But Josh Allen currently ranks second in terms of big time throws, which are throws that have either or that have either resulted in a touchdown or throws that have been into small windows and completing those passes. And he's also

tied for third in terms of passing TDs. We don't got to talk about the interceptions or anything like that. But, you know, he he's definitely he's definitely played better over the past few weeks. And if they're going to do anything in the playoffs or well, they back up if they're even going to make the playoffs, I believe the only way that they can do that realistically is they have to win out. And.

Alix Harris (29:26.498)
Yeah.

Drew Moore (29:31.282)
Yeah, so, um, against.

Alix Harris (29:32.494)
I mean, yeah, I said they got the Patriots and I can't remember the other team, but it's a bad, or the Patriots, the Chargers and the Chargers can play without Justin Herbert or a coach. And then they have the Dolphins and basically it's going to be all or nothing. And you know, by that point, the Dolphins may not even need to play their starters. So they might, you know, ultimately be able to squeak in. And if they make the playoffs, I think they're probably going to be one of the best wild card teams that we've seen in a while, because like we said, they should have been an elite team.

They're just very volatile. And when you're volatile in a season, it could go up in positive or it can go down in negative. And they're kind of right in the middle right now. But again, you're clicking at the right time. You want to be clicking towards the end of the season. They're getting their stuff together. And this is the most balanced team that Josh Allen has had because they are using James Cook. Josh Allen didn't even really need to play that big of a role in this game, obviously. But James Cook rushed for almost 200 yards. Like they completely destroyed and took complete advantage of the Cowboys. And they were the more physical team.

Drew Moore (30:25.505)
Mm-hmm.

Alix Harris (30:30.698)
So if they're able to do that, James Cook is running the ball that opens up the field for Josh Allen even more. He's a dual threat for quarterback or for running the ball. You got Gabe Davis running down the field. You got Stefan Diggs on his intermediate routes. Like they are a good team. And if the defense continues to play well, if Josh Allen continues to take care of the ball and James Cook is able to keep running the ball well. They can shock some people. And I think that they could, they could be a very scary team. So.

Drew Moore (30:57.558)
Bill's Mafia. Let's go. Let's do it. I think I think it's time to put in my, my Super Bowl pick, Buffalo Bills, winning it this year, taking down the San Francisco 49ers. You heard it here first. It's going to be a 37 to 30 victory for my boy, Josh Allen. Yep. That's it.

Alix Harris (30:58.81)
I don't know.

Alix Harris (31:20.554)
I think that it's ironic and it makes a lot of sense that you are up on the bills because I think that if I had to describe you with a football team, I would say you're the bills because I think that you have the potential to be great. You have a lot of good instances where you're elite, but then you just forget what's going on every once in a while, up and down. And so there you go. There you go.

Drew Moore (31:32.529)
Okay.

Okay.

Drew Moore (31:41.173)
Yep.

Drew Moore (31:44.902)
Mm-hmm. Fair enough.

Drew Moore (31:50.172)
Well, here we go.

Alix Harris (31:51.422)
Eagle Seahawks, Drew. So this is clearly going to be a multiple score win for the Seahawks. And we are playing at home. And it's tough because we've had a very tough schedule midway through the season, which is why we talked about many of the games that the Seahawks ended up losing that were very close games that we probably should have won. I think we should have won the game against the Rams the first game. I think we should have won the game against the Bengals. That was because.

In the middle of the season or towards the later part of the season, when we had, we have a gauntlet of teams that we have to play. We have to play against the Eagles, had to play against the Cowboys, had to play against 49ers twice. Those are tough games against some of the best teams in the league. And as of right now we're oh, and four against those teams. And now we play the Eagles. So, you know, the only silver lining, again, we don't want nobody to hurt, get hurt, and I actually liked Jaylen hurts because I have, you know, the Eagles are my pick, um, he is questionable. He was downgraded to questionable because he had a sickness. And then I guess he woke up today and he felt even worse.

So they downgraded him to questionable. I do think he's going to play. Geno Smith in his groin injury didn't play last week. Drew Locke played and he actually played pretty, I mean, you play the 49ers pretty tough. I'm not gonna lie. But he's also questionable to play as well. What are your thoughts on that game, Drew? Obviously the Eagles are coming off of two straight losses to the 49ers and the Cowboys. So they need to get back right on the.

are on the right track. And basically this is the Seahawks do or die game, because if they lose this, then basically we lose all hope of making the playoffs because we already lost the tiebreaker to the Rams. And if at best we would probably tie them in a record, so we would be out. So we need this game.

Drew Moore (33:28.626)
Yeah, so based on my ratings, I have the Eagles as a five point favorite in this game. The markets moved away from the market opened up as the Eagles favored by four points, and then it quickly moved back down after they lost to Seahawks three as three and a half point favorite or Jesus as three point underdogs.

Alix Harris (33:37.33)
Bless your art.

Drew Moore (33:56.618)
And now it's down to three with the Jalen Hurts news.

Alix Harris (33:59.97)
No, that's just respect. They're just giving, they know what we're capable of. A 10 and three team in the way that we look and they still, it's only a three point or four point favorite, I'll be at home. Like, come on now, come on, come on.

Drew Moore (34:03.258)
Okay, I guess.

Drew Moore (34:11.706)
I know it is interesting because according to market ratings and stuff based on where teams, where the closing line is when the game starts and everything, look at all of those, compare them. Market ratings have the Eagles as only 1.7 point favorites to the Seahawks. And it's interesting because, I say what?

Alix Harris (34:35.711)
end of drew lot.

the scan of drew lock.

Drew Moore (34:40.621)
Okay. And it's interesting that they that it has them as such a short favorite. But again, like market ratings just kind of show you general market trends and where teams are at. And then you kind of compare those to your own ratings. And according to my ratings, they have the Eagles pretty appropriately ranked. However, they have drastically overrated the Seahawks. So that kind of accounts for that.

1.7 points rating right spread right there. I already say some. Okay, I was going to say they have the Seahawks ranked as the 14th best team. I have the Seahawks ranked as the 22nd best team. So that's where I have him at. And then when it comes to the.

Alix Harris (35:34.051)
Okay.

Alix Harris (35:41.102)
Bro, what?

Drew Moore (35:42.603)
When it comes to the Eagles, they have the Eagles as a as the eighth best team or sorry, the curls on this, they have them as the sixth best team, not the eighth. And then I have them as the seventh best team. So

Alix Harris (35:56.922)
There's 13 teams with a lower record than us by a game, Drew. And you're saying that five of those teams at least are still better than Seattle.

Drew Moore (36:02.632)
Mm-hmm.


Drew Moore (36:29.762)
Yeah. Um, anyways, uh, so I hear what you're saying. You're saying my, my ratings that I have, okay. My ratings are based on, um, different statistics and stuff. It's just like early on in the season when like people were coming from my throat pause when I was saying that, uh, you know, the bill is statistically ranked out as the number one team at that point in time. And that was just based on.

Alix Harris (36:38.51)
I don't think you do.

Drew Moore (36:57.814)
the stats that I use to make my projections and stuff. And right now, based on those same stats, um, I had the Seahawks as, uh, 22nd.

Alix Harris (37:06.722)
Drew, the Jets, the Patriots, the Titans, the Chargers, the Giants, Washington, Chicago, Panthers, Cardinals. Which of those teams are better than Seattle? Please tell me which of those teams are better than Seattle. I just want to know.

Drew Moore (37:09.909)
Alex.

Drew Moore (37:30.85)
be before before. What's this face? Justin Herbert got hurt. The Chargers.

Alix Harris (37:40.086)
Yeah, they beat the lines. What do you do? So did we.

Drew Moore (37:42.222)
Okay, so and then who's other, who's other team you mentioned? Okay, obviously. Okay. Here is a better way to do it. These are the teams that I have below them right now. Um, the Steelers, the Titans, the Bears, the Jets, the Raiden. What? These are teams that are below them.

Alix Harris (37:46.59)
Arizona, the Cardinals, Washington, the Giants.

Alix Harris (38:03.122)
Of all the- I know, but of all the teams that like I just said like, you know, like nope, the Steelers. Steelers are a playoff team right now. Or they're borderline.

Drew Moore (38:09.771)
What there are they?

Drew Moore (38:13.756)
Are you telling me that the Steelers are better than the Seahawks?

Alix Harris (38:16.35)
No, I'm just saying that would mean that you also have a bad team above the Seahawks and the Steelers.

Drew Moore (38:22.986)
I mean, yeah. I mean, okay, the one team that's like lingering there that I don't agree with is the Falcons. They're one spot ahead of the Seahawks and it's gross. They're literally 0.01 points ahead of them. So that'll obviously change this week as they lost to the Panthers. So, but yeah, both of them is the Steelers.

Alix Harris (38:40.218)
Fair enough.

Alix Harris (38:45.715)
Fair enough. Legit. Fair enough. I don't want to get too much into it. Yeah.

Drew Moore (38:51.854)
The Titans, the Bears, the Jets, the Raiders, the Cardinals, the Patriots, the Giants, the Commanders, and the Panthers are dead last.

Alix Harris (39:01.178)
Fair enough.

Drew Moore (39:03.882)
But yeah, moral of the story is they currently have the Seahawks a little bit overrated right now with the market ratings in terms of where they have them at. And however, looking at this game from a market dynamics perspective, 82% of the bets are on the Eagles.

yet the line is falling away from the Eagles, which tells me that there's obviously there's some injury news there that helps move that line. But also there could be some respective money, respected money on the Seahawks saying that, now actually have this line a little bit closer to three, took it off of that four that it was at off the three and a half. What'll be interesting to see is if it goes through the key number of three.

then that'll be a true indicator of smart money on the side of the Seahawks. And at which point, I mean, even right now, I'm kind of tempted to take the Seahawks because I mean, it's one of those 80-20 rules where 80% of the bets are on a team in a prime time game, Monday night football as home underdogs, short underdog too. Like I...

It's very tempting, but it's also the Seahawks. And I don't want that in my life. I'd rather just pass.

Alix Harris (40:30.951)
I mean, it sucks, dude, because I feel like if, I don't have high expectations, but I feel like if we won this game, then we could win out and we can go 10 and 7, we can sweep into the playoffs. We could! We play the Titans, the Steelers, and the Cardinals.

Drew Moore (40:37.662)
Stop it. You guys are missing the playoffs. It's over, Alex. The gig's up.

Alix Harris (40:44.714)
I want to make a bet with you so bad, but like I cannot. I'm not. The kings. They are who we thought they were. Fair enough, fair enough. Let's get into some actually very good teams. So let's do our top five power rankings. Would you like to go first or do you want me to go? Or we can go round robin.

Drew Moore (40:54.68)
Mm-hmm.

Exactly.

Drew Moore (41:10.062)
Um, yeah, we can do, I'll give my number one, you can give your number one and go back and forth like that. I'll, I'll make it quick. New Orleans saints coming off of a dominant victory against the, uh, Danny DeVito, um, uh, lead. I mean, after that, after they had a late hit on him, I was like, dude, that's not the guy to be doing that.

Alix Harris (41:14.774)
Number one better be consensus, I'm sorry.

Yep.

Alix Harris (41:26.175)
Mm-hmm. You see his agent out here putting out mob hits and stuff

Alix Harris (41:35.266)
Bro, no, his agent was on the sidelines, literally looked like he was just straight out the Sopranos. Like, it was kind of crazy.

Drew Moore (41:39.586)
Sorry. That's crazy. But yeah, realistically though, I have the 49ers as my number one team. I hope that you don't disagree with that.

Alix Harris (41:51.378)
Agreed enough said. Best team.

Drew Moore (41:53.246)
All right, moving on. Yep, next. So, OK, statistically speaking, it's still the Cowboys as the number two team. However, so there's a difference between rankings and ratings. Ratings are based on actual stats.

Alix Harris (42:01.987)
Oh boy.

Alix Harris (42:19.009)
Mm-hmm.

Drew Moore (42:22.638)
different factors, albeit injuries or situations or certain time of the year, whatever, all kinds of factors. If we're going to rankings, I would go with the Baltimore Ravens. I still think that they're the most complete team, top to bottom. I still don't even think that we've seen their best game from them yet.

Alix Harris (42:48.45)
Yes, I agree. My number two is the Ravens. I... Obviously, the Cowboys lost. Had to change my rankings a little bit because I probably would have had them at number two. But again, I think as you said, the Ravens are probably one of the most complete teams or the most complete team in the AFC. Probably one of the most right behind the 49ers.

And their running ability with Lamar Jackson, the first utility and allowing him to actually have some good weapons this year with Zay Flowers, who's been a great rookie OBJ Bateman's actually had some good catches. The obviously have Isaiah likely who's been the backup tight end who has some good moments for them over the past three weeks since Mark Andrews has been out. And there's been talk about him being able to return in the playoffs. You know, they're potentially able to get a first round by if they're able to get the number one seed. So allowing him to get healthy, I think too, it allowed them to just, you know, completely.

low the top off. I think that they have the capability to be an elite team. And again, Lamar Jackson is firmly in the MVP conversation. I think he's probably top three or three right now. Currently they are beating the Jaguars 23 to seven with only three minutes left and they have the ball. So you know what they're probably going to do? They're going to run the clock out because they have probably the best, they probably have the best time management in the league. So the Ravens would be my number two and the best team, the AFC.

Drew Moore (43:54.367)
Or an interception?

Drew Moore (44:04.126)
Yep. OK, this is where it starts to get a little tricky. This is gross. OK. So.

Alix Harris (44:09.966)
No doubt.

Drew Moore (44:23.598)
Okay, well, obviously, I'm going to have the my cowboys. How I do, I'm going to have them as number three. I just think that they've shown that they can beat elite teams. The problem is whenever they play in a way, get away game. They suck. They're trash away from home. But when they play at home, OK, they are they're dominant at home. I was looking it up.

Alix Harris (44:46.446)
say it louder for the people in the back.

Drew Moore (44:53.502)
earlier because I was meant to bring it up when we were talking about the Seahawks and how their home field advantage really isn't all that great. Anyways, the Dallas Cowboys since 2021, they have the best record at home at 20 and 4. So then, I'm actually, I'm curious. Let me see what their road record is because I'm sure that it's actually pretty gross. We got to wait on this Wi-Fi.

Alix Harris (45:18.158)
Yeah, it's three and four. I got it right here. There's seven and O at home and there's three and four on the road.

Drew Moore (45:24.466)
Well, I meant from like since 2021. Let's see. Oh, man. This is some small writing.

Alix Harris (45:26.986)
Ah, okay.

Drew Moore (45:34.243)
Oh, okay, so.

Alix Harris (45:34.634)
Yeah, while you're looking that up, I... Oh man. Now go ahead.

Drew Moore (45:39.732)
Er, yeah, go for it.

Alix Harris (45:42.198)
No, I was just saying like I have a toss up between the Cowboys and the Eagles right in this spot. Obviously, you know, if we were to record this earlier this morning or yesterday, I probably would have had the Cowboys there. And I still, I still, I still want to put them there, but because obviously recency bias, but like, if you look at the overall season, if you look at the overall body of work, the Philadelphia Eagles currently.

Drew Moore (45:53.294)
Fair weather fan.

Drew Moore (46:01.23)
body of work.

Alix Harris (46:07.154)
And I would assume after Monday would still have a better record than the Cowboys and they've had the toughest strength of schedule throughout the entire season. I've had numerous teams that they've had to play that have been elite. The Cowboys have had to play the Eagles who have been basically the only, I would say at the time the dolphins were kind of borderline contenders, but obviously now they've gotten on a bit of a wind streak. So now, um, they're kind of up there within the AFC, but like

The Dallas Cowboys haven't had to play that many good teams other than the Eagles. Now it's split one on one and obviously it's recency bias. The Dallas Cowboys had a great game plan against the Eagles a couple weeks ago and they took complete control. It was kind of weird because the Eagles were able to move the ball. They got in the red zone or if not close to the red zone and then they had like two or three turnovers. Jalen Hurts had a fumble, AJ Brown had a fumble, Devontae Smith had a fumble. So it was like a lot of unfortunate events. But like if I had to choose one, I would still think that they-

are the Eagles are better team and as the bill showed today like if you're able to get pressure on Dak Prescott even though he didn't get sacked a bunch I think you only got sacked three or four times he had a lot of hurries they had a lot of past deflections and they were able to speed him up you know that has the possibility to win I think the Eagles still have more ways to beat you so you know what just for fun I'm gonna put my Eagles at number three

Drew Moore (47:25.902)
Gross. Like, like, OK, I. I would know I wouldn't I wouldn't be on your side at all. Like they're deep. I was trying to justify like, no, but I can't, though. Like they're their defense is just so bad that I can't. I cannot put them up there. They're 27th in EPA per play, their 20th in success rate, their 26th in EPA per play at drop back.

when and 19th when at with EPA. Oh, my God. 19th with success rates per drop back. Their 24th and EPA per rush, their 15th in success rate when it comes to rushes. Oh, that's decent. OK, but like all those other stats like you, you can throw all day over them. Like you can just.

Alix Harris (48:15.406)
With all that though, the goal is to win games and they've had the toughest schedule all season and they have are tied for the best record in the NFL with the toughest schedule all year.

Drew Moore (48:18.902)
Oh my god. Bro.

Drew Moore (48:27.31)
And they've they I mean, you know, you can always say, oh, they barely won, but they still won kind of thing. But at the same time, they arguably could have lost all of those games that they did win.

Alix Harris (48:38.658)
I mean, it's the same thing with the Chiefs over the past four or five years. They had a lot of close games, but they know how to win. Or the Patriots in their dynasty, like they have a lot of close games or they have to come back, but they still find a way to win. Like, I mean...

Drew Moore (48:50.102)
But when, okay, but with those games though, that they just did win, it wasn't like, oh, they made like this defensive stand and they were able to hold them from scoring. It was like the dude dropped the ball. No, it was the dude dropped the ball or the, oh. Okay, well what about when Dak stepped out before he reached over and scored the touchdown? Okay, but also that plays a factor because they would have had a touchdown right there. Wouldn't have had to worry about the one inch line.

Alix Harris (48:59.714)
They did.

They made a defensive stand against the Cowboys in the first game that they played.

Alix Harris (49:10.583)
That was in the middle of the game.

Alix Harris (49:16.642)
Yes, I'm saying like I said, and I think the Eagles would have scored at least a field goal on like three sessions where they ended up fumbling. But like, you know, it's not like I'm saying that the Cowboys are ass. Like I'm just saying that they would just be one slight spot based off their performance today, as well as the rest of the season behind the Eagles. If you want to, they're one and one together. The Eagles have the better record. They've played against tougher competition all year and

Drew Moore (49:27.85)
MWAH

Alix Harris (49:42.866)
I don't know which one for me and they're gonna win me my bet against you in the NFC East. Like I mean, I'm sorry

Drew Moore (49:48.546)
27th in EPA for play, 20th in success rate, 26th in EPA drop back.

Alix Harris (49:52.05)
Number one in the NFC East, tied for the best record in the NFC, hardest schedule. I think the Cowboys are like middle of the pack in their strength schedule. Their top, their toughest opponents have been my, the team, the Eagles and the Dolphins and they have bad losses and they just got Molly Wapz just what they did to the Eagles just happened to them against the Bills who we both have talked about are a very volatile team and they're playing well right now. But I mean.

You had a perfect opportunity. You had just beat the Eagles, go and beat the Bills, and then you have to play the Dolphins next week. Win those games and you basically secure the NFC East. I mean, Dak Prescott, if he would have won that game against the Bills, probably would have been the favorite or a front runner. Honestly, probably wrapped up the MVP conversation as long as he didn't like mess up anything over the past last two games. But now...

I mean, now you still have to give the nod back to Purdy, which is kind of crazy, drew her back to the Brock Purdy as the MVP front runner. Wild.

Drew Moore (50:48.246)
Hahaha

Drew Moore (50:51.59)
They don't even run. I took a flyer on Brock Brady at a plus 1200. So amen. Diversify, divide, and conquer. OK. Said value. See the value. But no. I don't know, man. I just.

Alix Harris (50:59.542)
Yeah, because you got a fire probably on every single player in the league. Hey, Najee Harris plus 7,000? Yeah, I'm there.

Alix Harris (51:19.646)
It's one ranking. And obviously the Cowboys would be my number four.

Drew Moore (51:20.703)
then I don't like it.

Drew Moore (51:25.474)
Oh, interesting. Moving on! Okay, so, um...

Alix Harris (51:29.954)
With the Eagles, if you have the Cowboys number three, would you have the Eagles number four?

Drew Moore (51:34.402)
I'm not sure. Because, yeah. Like.

Alix Harris (51:35.586)
Okay, that's fair. I mean, we haven't even seen them play this week. Now Jalen Hurts is hurt.

Drew Moore (51:44.822)
Yeah, because the past few weeks, their offense just looks broken. Like they just look like they are lost on offense.

Alix Harris (51:53.058)
They just score. They just put up like 40 points against the bills who just destroyed you. Like two weeks ago.

Drew Moore (51:57.927)
Oh, the bills that don't have a defense?

Alix Harris (52:01.234)
They've I think they have like they're like they're like top five in like holding teams below like I think it's like 22 points I'm like you say that they don't have a defense of their injuries and stuff like that Like the past like nine games they've held teams like Let me pull it up for you like after them after After their big loss to oh after wait no Well, it's the one I'm thinking of after they lost to the Jags was early in the season So after week four they held the Giants to nine

Drew Moore (52:02.402)
I'm telling you bro, they don't have a defense.

Drew Moore (52:18.123)
Oh, let me pull it out of it.

Alix Harris (52:29.926)
And then the okay was after the Patriots because the Patriots ended up beating them so they lost to the Patriots So they held the Bucks to 18 they held the Bengals to 24 the Broncos 24 obviously the Jets to 6 and then they had The game against the Eagles, but then they held this Chiefs to 17 and they held the Cowboys to 10 like That's not a bad defense It may not be elite, but it's not bad

Drew Moore (52:31.527)
Only the Giants, woo.

Drew Moore (52:52.37)
They are not. They they match up. They have a very poor matchup for what the Eagles like to do, especially because they like to take the top off on the defense. And. Well, the Cowboys don't have anybody other than Brandon Cooks and C.D. Lamb that can run past anybody in C.D. Lamb isn't really known to be a deep ball threat. He's more like middle of the field and yards at the catch.

Alix Harris (53:04.493)
Bad matching for the Cowboys, apparently.

Alix Harris (53:20.342)
I mean Ferguson was running over, jumping over people, man.

Drew Moore (53:23.926)
Well, he was trying. Well. Mm-hmm. But also, on top of that, too, the Eagles are one of the most run-heavy teams as well. And then they take shots every once in a while, too. And the Bills are currently ranked 22nd when it comes to EPA per play in terms of rush defense. So like they're.

Alix Harris (53:25.05)
Terpyn will have a deep ball every once in a while if he's not returning kicks, but yeah, I hear you.

Drew Moore (53:51.65)
They're going to have success, especially when the Eagles are number one in EPA per play when it comes to rush success. So like that, that's just a terrible matchup for the, uh, for the bills.

Alix Harris (54:04.01)
Yeah, fair enough. What would be your last year five? Because I have a hard time. I have about three teams here that I want to give it to. But out of respect, I think I'm gonna

Drew Moore (54:15.535)
I didn't even get to my number, I didn't even get to my number four.

Alix Harris (54:19.335)
I asked you if it was the eagles and you're like, hmm, maybe. Perhaps.

Drew Moore (54:26.626)
I said, yeah. Yeah, no, this one is pretty tough, though. Damn. I, hmm. Hmm.

Drew Moore (54:39.35)
I want to give it to... I'm a believer. And... And in Kansas City, but I can't. I can't.

Alix Harris (54:45.24)
in.

Alix Harris (54:51.503)
Yeah, no, they're not in my top five. They're number six for me right now.

Drew Moore (54:56.482)
And I want to put the bills there, but I can't do that. And I'm sure it's how I'm not putting the dolphins there.

Alix Harris (55:02.49)
They're number seven.

Alix Harris (55:11.218)
I have the lions at my fifth while you're thinking about your fourth. I have the lions as my fifth. Out of respect. Out of, out of respect, like.

Drew Moore (55:13.454)
That, ooh, they fell off for me. Yeah, their defense is flugazy to be H.

Alix Harris (55:19.798)
They didn't.

Alix Harris (55:23.702)
I mean, why did they fall off? They obviously had a bad loss of the bears, but they lost to the Packers, just like the Chiefs lost to the Packers. And I think they're a good team. They haven't, they haven't, they don't have, that's the only thing. I don't think they have a lot of key wins. Like, I don't think they have a lot of key wins against good, good teams.

Drew Moore (55:32.716)
Um, cause-

Drew Moore (55:42.158)
that and also like I don't know their defense was good at the beginning of the year and after I don't know a few weeks actually will go from week eight on their ranked 23rd in EPA per play and teams have just been kind of lighten them up on offense and when you let Justin, Justin Love, Jordan Love look like

look like Aaron Rodgers back in the day. I like that's a problem.

Alix Harris (56:15.798)
Yeah, it's completely different offensive styles, but like they are like the dolphins of the NFC in terms of like they're just gonna score you, but the dolphins defenses actually looked better as of late. But I hear you. But I really like I really like the Lions offense and especially now that Dave Montgomery and Jameer Gibbs are both healthy that one two punches disgusting and then with Alma Amaral and Jared Goff is just as consistent as a quarterback as you can get. I mean, nobody's ever going to give them their props.

Drew Moore (56:25.246)
Yeah, until they got everybody hurt.

Alix Harris (56:44.79)
They have these major wins and they're on this huge winning streak. And then they lose to the Packers on Thanksgiving. And then you have a chance to, oh, you know, go like 10 and five or 10 and four, something like that. Then you lose to Justin Fields and the Bears. So it's stuff. They beat the Broncos who had been on fire over the past seven or so weeks, but, um, they play the Vikings next week, who I feel should be an easy win.

Drew Moore (56:52.354)
Mm-hmm.

Drew Moore (56:59.31)
Mm-hmm.

Alix Harris (57:09.054)
And then they have a big game against the Cowboys. And then I think that'll tell me how much of a contender that they can be going into the playoffs.

Drew Moore (57:16.77)
Hmm. All that being said...

God, why are these teams so bad below them?

Alix Harris (57:25.326)
I can't just give it to the Chiefs out of like, you know, just because like they're the Chiefs, I understand but like, I mean, they look broken.

Drew Moore (57:31.842)
You know what? You know what, Alex? Bill's Mafia, let's ride. Bill's Mafia number four. Bill's Mafia.

Alix Harris (57:38.028)
At number four.

Alix Harris (57:43.586)
I mean, I guess they beat the two top five, I mean, they beat the chiefs on a BS call and then they might walk your Cowboys. I don't know what's going on with the chiefs and these rest man like because they lost the game to the Packers when they had a chance to go on a game winning touchdown drive and MVS got a blatant pass interference call. I think it was I don't know if it was an inside thing. It was like on the six on a bomb or something like that. No call. And then the next week.

Drew Moore (58:08.855)
Yeah.

Alix Harris (58:13.37)
Kaderius Tony and Travis Kelce have like one of the coolest plays or one of the best plays that I've seen probably would have been the play of the year on a like 30 yard reception and run for Travis Kelce. Then he laterals it like 15 yards to Kaderius Tony who runs it in on like a 40 yard 50 yard touchdown and it gets called back because Kaderius Tony is offside. I guess and there's been three of those calls all season and I don't know.

Drew Moore (58:38.78)
Nope.

Alix Harris (58:43.598)
So who would be your number five then? If you have your bills at number four, I'm not even gonna, you know, you're back on the bandwagon, you're back on the tee. So like, I'm not even surprised. I'm not even surprised.

Drew Moore (58:44.063)
Yep.

Drew Moore (58:51.382)
Back on the. We're back in the saddle. Bill's mafia. You know what it is. Biggest fan here. Chiefs are going to be number five. So, yeah.

Alix Harris (59:04.494)
Fair enough.

Fair enough, anything else that you wanted to get into in the NFL.

Drew Moore (59:12.49)
Um, no, that's pretty much it. Um, I kind of rushed by it when I had mentioned it before, but the, uh, the Seahawks, they're known to be, you know, having the 12th man and everything, but uh, that 12th man hasn't really been working all that hard since 2021 where their home record is 12 and 11. Not much of a home field advantage if you ask me, so.

Drew Moore (59:39.706)
PFFT! Hehehehe

Alix Harris (59:42.21)
Moving on to the NBA, like I'm not even gonna give that any attention. For those of you that are wondering, the Ravens beat the Jags 23 to 7. We knew that we were gonna film this evening, so after basically all of the games and pretty much in the middle of the Sunday night game. So last night, Drew asked me what my picks would be for the week. And this man wanted to-

He wanted to argue with my picks and act as if they weren't. You interesting? Those are those are those are some interesting picks. Oh. With an with a. Don't forget the drew. I know I know what that means. So, but you know, for those of you that did not see it when Andrew posted it, my picks were the Chiefs minus eight and a half against the Patriots, because I thought they were going to bounce back because they had two.

Drew Moore (01:00:14.354)
I didn't argue.

I just said... I just said interesting. I just... I just said interesting. Whatever.

Alix Harris (01:00:38.53)
bad losses because of some bad calls, non-calls actually, and the Ravens to dominate the Jags. I just want to know which of those games were the ooh for you. I'm just curious. Because it sounds like, you know, common sense to me.

Drew Moore (01:00:51.614)
No, I mean, it was just, you know, it was just very chalky plays. You know, it was just like a very public. It was this is one podcast elicited. Like whenever they, they talk about picking like a public team, they always call it a donkey pick. You know, so it's being a donkey. That's what it comes down to.

Alix Harris (01:01:12.118)
What picks were yours? Your game picks this week again?

Drew Moore (01:01:16.514)
You know, I don't gotta talk about it, you know? Right.

Alix Harris (01:01:20.632)
I'm genuinely curious.

Drew Moore (01:01:22.726)
Yeah, so I had the under 32 and a half with the... Hey man, if it hits, why is it... Okay, so I had the under in the Atlanta Cardinals, Atlanta Carolina game, which obviously hit the final score was 7-9. I had the... I had the over in the Washington, LA game, it was 49 and a half.

Alix Harris (01:01:26.871)
Even these unders, man.

It...

Alix Harris (01:01:38.574)
Mm-hmm.

Alix Harris (01:01:43.314)
way there.

Drew Moore (01:01:51.626)
and unfortunately the game ended 20 to 28. So that sucks. I had the bills because you know bill's mafia. You know what it is. Of course I did.

Alix Harris (01:01:57.123)
Be like that.

Alix Harris (01:02:05.262)
You really did have the bills over the Cowboys? With the points or straight up?

Drew Moore (01:02:11.662)
Come on, you know me, Moneyline, baby. I don't mess around with that. But yeah, so I had bills. But when the time that you gave me the, well, actually, didn't you give me your pics like last night or was it this morning?

Alix Harris (01:02:13.946)
Wow, that's impressive.

Alix Harris (01:02:28.414)
I gave you to them, I gave you them last night. Well, basically this morning, cause it was 12 37 in the morning, midnight. And don't worry about it, I'll be doing, we was coaching, we had a game.

Drew Moore (01:02:35.59)
Okay, you can get some sleep. Anyways, so, okay, no. By the time I put in your pick with Kansas City, the lion had moved back up to 10, and so we pushed. My bad. You should have gave it to me earlier.

Alix Harris (01:02:49.049)
What?

Alix Harris (01:02:54.487)
What? Drew's out here sabotaging me. Look at that, y'all.

Drew Moore (01:02:57.178)
Right, you get it. You give it to me that late. Anyways, and then I also had I also had. I had the under 43 in the Sunday Night Football game, so that one also hit as well. Oh, the two the two games, other games that I lost, the Titan or Titans messing around with the ball. And then also the Packers minus four. I had some

Alix Harris (01:02:59.578)
That's crazy. Immediately. Okay, what time it is?

Drew Moore (01:03:27.142)
that you know some inkling that it was the right play, but I ignored the best split and the best split got me. It was a classic line freeze. Should have known better, but I just ignored it. So.

Alix Harris (01:03:39.95)
You see how that goes y'all like, you know, and this is goes back to me and Drew into our undergrad days in college like You just gave me nine bets like it's gluttony drew

Drew Moore (01:03:51.702)
What do you mean? I gave you one, two, three, four, five, six bets.

Drew Moore (01:04:04.126)
Okay, well, that took it light. Just a quick thing on how we're doing so far. So on the young season, if we look at overall body of work, 97 and 73 and six, six pushes, hate when you push, pause. And ROI is 4.82%, 55% win rate.

Alix Harris (01:04:06.22)
Fair enough, fair enough. That was pretty good. So.

Drew Moore (01:04:32.734)
And then if we go with only our sides and totals, then our win rate increases, we go to 64 and 43 and five, again with those pushes, man. And then 57 win percentage and 9.13 ROI on the season. So.

Alix Harris (01:04:56.218)
So if you wanna be broke, you be richer. And I...

Drew Moore (01:04:58.674)
Yep. Either or, didn't matter if we picked the props or if we picked sides and totals, if you listen to us, you follow us, you'll be profitable. So also not a financial advisor. Exactly.

Alix Harris (01:05:11.556)
Moving on into

but I'm not a rapper.